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major and I will tell you I've been in

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situations where I'm driving down a road

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or I remember once being Peru on a

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little train and I'm looking up at the

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site which is destabilized right right

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that's situation yeah that situation

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it's so cyclical out here it seems like

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we go through the same thing year after

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year where there's no rain then you know

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everything dries out we go through the

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fires then the rain comes and all the

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hillsides are stripped away of all the

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vegetation so then we got to deal with

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the mudslides and then it's like rinse

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and repeat right and then we just do it

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all over again it's not a place where

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people should live now I you know I I

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don't mean that nastily I meant that

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from a geological point of view it's not

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I mean you know because I've seen some

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of the pictures recently I saw I think

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on the news earlier today or an Internet

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so a big mud slide with boulders that

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come down over a road ya know you'd

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either you have to deal with it and

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accept it as it is but you're not going

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to change it from you know nature's

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point of view now you just mentioned

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what's this is what's really funny I'm

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gonna make this really quick because I

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want your reaction to this you and I

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we've sat and we talked so much and we

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agree on so much and and I've learned so

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much from you but there's one thing

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where you and I just don't agree and

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that's the own attorney

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Yonaguni yep oh yeah you went okay and

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actually I was mentioning yawning just

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now because that ties in with what we

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were just talking about what you have at

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Yonaguni and I don't know if everyone's

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familiar with it but you have these

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underwater structures are called

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structures but I'm using that non

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definitively that doesn't mean they're

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artificial as I'm using the term you can

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have natural geological structures and

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I'm convinced that it's primarily

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natural underwater and the way the rock

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breaks out it is fault as heavily

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faulted I'm talking now geology he's got

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these cracks in it their form by the

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earthquakes that occur there's a very

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active tectonic area in fact I could

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tell you a lot of fun stories about that

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I was I've been there four times and up

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to two weeks at a time diving at that

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type of thing and I am convinced that

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it's primarily a natural structure under

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water now there's lots of evidence for

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human habitation on the island going

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back to a very remote period going back

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to the end of the last ice age when

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you're on one end of Yonaguni you can

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actually see Taiwan on a clear day

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literally see Taiwan and recently

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because you were talking about recent

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research there's now information that's

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come out that in fact when you look at

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the topography underwater topography

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between Yonaguni and Taiwan at one point

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were low enough that there was actually

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a land bridge between them and I do

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believe there was interchange etcetera

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so there were ancient people living on

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Yonaguni and when sea levels were lower

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a lot of these structures were exposed

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and I believe that they were using them

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them but it's not a pyramid in my

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assessment built artificially and that

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gets back to what we were just talking

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about when I was there for one of the

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trips there was actually a small tsunami

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cause a lot of damage and I actually

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see for myself how the rocks were being

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split and broken off in huge chunks and

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being carried away in forming this

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incredible step-like square topography

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but for me it naturally ah yeah I look

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at this now you've Skoob it you've been

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there and I understand that but I know

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when I look at just pictures of it from

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remotely when you haven't looked at the

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entire site and you see how the very

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regular even what looks like cut marks

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then grazed in

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ooh what everyone would agree is natural

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and there's all the gradations in

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between and a very strong currents that

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sweep out the debris and then you can

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find that elsewhere etc I mean it's a

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remarkable sight is an absolutely

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remarkable sight when I first was on my

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way there on the airplane actually you

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mentioned John Anthony was my first trip

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scuba dive before we went there so we

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could scuba dive on it because that's

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I just was going there to confirm and

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get the final pieces of evidence but

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underwater when I saw it underwater for

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myself

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yeah it was it was I don't want to say

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it wasn't disappointed because it was

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disappointing awful that's what you

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loved it to be you know the definitive

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evidence of ancient structures to that

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remote period in that part of Asia I

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mean we've talked about this before I

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have to go with the evidence as I see it

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earn your scuba gear your underwater and

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clearly over your shoulder on the wall

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is carved it says watch your step I wish

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but but if I could not change the

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subject but change the subject just a

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little bit Yonaguni is one thing and I'm

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not convinced by it but then we do have

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on Java and I've been there to see this

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site we have on Java the site of Goodman

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Padang right which is absolutely in my

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assessment in my opinion looking at the

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evidence the real thing going back to

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the same remote period even earlier

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possibly based on radiocarbon dating

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sigh geophysical work that Danny Hillman

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not should not to Jawara has been

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working on if I pronounce his Indonesian

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name correctly he goes by Danny Hillman

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he and you know so maybe Yonaguni in my

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opinion didn't pan out but we have

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another site from the same general area

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Indonesia right in this case versus

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Japan and I have no doubt whatsoever and

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actually decades now that yeah we

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Turkey etc and all of this builds up a

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larger picture that there was what I

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call an earlier cycle civilization that

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so we have good evidence in my

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assessment at grinnin Padang we have

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incredible evidence and with gobekli

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tepe in Turkey which you and I have

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talked about quite a bit we have the

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evidence and Egypt from the Sphinx but

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I'm not going to personally dilute that

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if I couldn't use that term with things

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that are questionable like Yonaguni or

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things that are totally bogus and I

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instance the so-called Bosnian pyramids

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them I you know that I tend to be very

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honest and I don't like to take any kind

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of native view on things or belittle

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other people and if I do I apologize

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right away hopefully but the Bosnian

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pyramids they they are not what some

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people claim they are what would it take

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evidence that those were artificial

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structures I would have to find a

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doorway with a doorway were a doorway or

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maybe something where you have stones

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have actually been built and stacked

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together what you have is bedrock that

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a part in ancient quarry but I'm not

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even convinced of that and people say

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it's right angles and it's so smooth and

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perfect well actually when you go

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underwater and you look at it directly

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it's not the angles are not perfectly

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right angles they fall they follow the

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fault lines they follow the bedding I'm

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using geological terms but they follow

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the bedding of the rock I mean it it

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unfortunately for the ancient

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civilization from the ancient

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civilization point of view it's it fits

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natural geology is it stupendous

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incredible natural geology yes do you

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yes do you get anything precisely like

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that elsewhere no but is every

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geological formation every geological

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structure on Earth unique at some level

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yes this is a part of geology that's why

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you can take a little rock sample and if

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you have enough data and you do the

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analysis yeah you can say oh this rock

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came from this quarry in this country

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etc etc and they do that for instance

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with artwork sculptures and whatnot

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everything in geology is unique to

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assert a certain level the when people

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say to me almost there's nothing exactly

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like Yonaguni elsewhere therefore it

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must be artificial no that doesn't work

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that's not the way geology is the the

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other part about you know goonie though

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you just suggested that there's a

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possibility of it may be an ancient

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quarry

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well that would be significant too as

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well wouldn't it that would be

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significant and actually I'm not

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convinced as an ancient quarry but what

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I am convinced of and a lot of people

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miss this when they hear me say

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something and then I don't say exactly

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what they want to hear which is that oh

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yeah this is a ancient pyramid under

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water and proves you know ancient

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civilization there and part of MU or

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linear whatnot I'm convinced that based

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on the evidence that people were

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inhabiting that Island at this revoke

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period on the island on the surface

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there are tombs for instance there are

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what they now call tombs ancient tombs

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some of them are more modern they are

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still being used but some of them are

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very very ancient and when you look at

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those tombs they are absolutely human

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constructed carved out of the bedrock

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actually carved out different formations

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of bedrock than the under water

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structures but they are I am convinced

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carved in ancient times to essentially

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mimic if you would the underwater

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structures so what I'm saying is that

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just like we who in awe at the Grand

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Canyon or the man in the mountain you

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thing and even make copies of them I

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think the ancient people were incredibly

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impressed by what they saw Yonaguni

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which were still impressed by and they

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were even imitating it to a certain

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extent I've also hypothesized that when

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this was above water more or less sea

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levels were lower they may have used

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Yonaguni as some kind of platform or

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staging ground did they maybe modify it

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very slightly I'm not opposed to that

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concept what I'm opposed to are what I'm

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saying the evidence it indicates to me

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is that it's not in total or even

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primarily artificial structure I'm not

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denying that humans were there in

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ancient times and admiring it using it

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imitating it

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you know it's not really a

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black-and-white issue there's a lot of

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gray area in there no yes and and it in

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a way it kind of bums me out but the

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thing is my all but we make there's

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something else that before I'm sorry

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didn't you interrupt - sure one thing

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you have to remember are think about

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especially when you go to the Far East

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and we're talking modern Japan and now

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China it just off the coast of China and

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Taiwan they have a very very long

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tradition of admiring nature imitating

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nature you think of you know like Zen

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gardens and right right right that type

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of thing and I think actually at

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Yonaguni you can trace this tradition

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back to a very remote period I think

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that served neat but go ahead I'm sorry

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something bums you out well in that we

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see things and we all want the

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fantastical to you know to possibly

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break through and be true parallel

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worlds time-traveled you know and and

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something like Jana Guney is right there

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and it's the same but Yonaguni to me

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looks very real as opposed to the

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Bosnian pyramid I look at that night

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it's a hill oh absolutely the Bosnian

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pyramids don't even look real and that's

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in part because they're not real number

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one and you've got huge huge hills which

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only from certain angles sort of maybe

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look like something and then when

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they're bulldozed and carved up with

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backhoes you little section sort of

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maybe look like something the thing

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about Yonaguni is you've never seen it

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let me well I don't mean this this sound

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the wrong way but it's very hard to see

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in photographs you've actually not seen

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it unless you've not only dived it but

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dived the extent of it if someone puts

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you down in one little spot on Yonaguni

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underwater I'm talking scuba and then

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doesn't let you explore the whole

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structure it could be very convincing

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even right in front of you

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when you start looking at how it grades

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in and you actually start exploring the

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geology with you know background and the

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type of rocket is that type of thing

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it's you know something else comes out

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I'll say one more thing about right now

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I could not even see the rock on my

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first diver - why because it's all

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covered with what I call organic scum as

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a geologist it's covered with organisms

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covered with corals and sea squirts or

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whatever they call them sponges that

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type of thing is sort of like if you

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took something that's a bit rougher and

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then you took cement you know thin layer

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cement and put it over it and smooth

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everything over and it would make it

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look much nicer and neater that's

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essentially what's happened our usage at

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Yonaguni so it gives even more of the

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impression that it's a artificial

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structure and then you have things like

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quote post holes people that people have

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thought they saw post holes which are

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very regularly spaced etc etc I've

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looked at those in detail what they are

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is a long a joint or a fracture in the

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rock little organisms will burrow in and

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they'll make their little home and

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they'll make though actually wrote the

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rock away and they'll make a hole

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basically where they're living and these

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it's very common biology and marine

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biology they space themselves very

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evenly because they have their own

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little territory we'll use that term

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loosely and so they make what look like

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very regular structures in geology and

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biology

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you get regularities and patterns all

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the time and they look artificial to the

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untrained eye well it's really it's

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incredible sight I would never

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discourage anyone from going there it's

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it's a one of the wonders of the world

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it just is more natural than artificial

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in my assessment well we

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we will continue to disagree but you

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know you have to go there we should take

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a trip where you die you should tear

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there wouldn't that be fun

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we should take a trip and I want to

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clarify and we could do your radio show

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from underwater oh man it will be so

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cool don't worry I'm joking because they

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do have these things where you can talk

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and whatnot does Katie scuba dive not to

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my knowledge

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okay you can learn she can learn it's

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not hard if I can do it anyone can do it

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well Marcus her mother her water type

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her and really could do produce the show

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from on deck by notice I know she does

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plenty of snorkeling and that type of

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thing so scuba is not that far from at

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me actually I find scuba diving easier

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than more i I find it easier to scuba

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dive than to snorkel personally now

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we've got two minutes before the break

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and I need some clarification from you

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you said earlier sort of maybe about

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three times is that an academic term

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Robert yeah what you know what we do

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when we're in academia we say sort of

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maybe when we don't want to be totally

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committed because it always sounds bad

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when academic is totally committed to

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something because that's not the way we

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are we always look for evidence we're

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always open to changing our mind so we

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John West used to make fun of me for

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this he said you know I talked about my

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hypothesis well you know my working

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hypothesis well that's what I believe at

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the moment but I'm open to changing my

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mind if evidence comes in that merits

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rethinking something sort of maybe man I

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can't wait that's a colloquial version I

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can't wait to use that in a sentence now

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when we come back after the break we've

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got a lot to talk about I want to get to

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all of the latest news out of Giza

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there's a ton of it because we're going

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to spend the rest of the show talking

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about what happened 12,000 years ago

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we've got to talk about the end of the

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last ice age all of your latest research

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there's a lot of stuff to get through

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and

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we come back after the break we'll start

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with Giza you ready to go ready let's do

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this our guest tonight a dr. Robert M

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shock I am your host Amy Church

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welcome back fade to black I'm real

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shimmy Church tonight our guest dr.

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Robert M shock what a great name Robert

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M shock it's perfect for me this is fade

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to black on the game changer Network in

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kg RA the planet can follow me on

565
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twitter @jj radio and dr. Schaack has a

566
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Twitter account he hasn't used in about

567
00:26:17,289 --> 00:26:15,799
15 years since the start of Twitter but

568
00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:17,299
we have it up there

569
00:26:22,510 --> 00:26:20,960
it is dr. Robert M shock and we have it

570
00:26:25,180 --> 00:26:22,520
up there on Twitter maybe you'll pay

571
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:25,190
attention to Twitter these days it's

572
00:26:31,690 --> 00:26:27,049
going to be huge they say that Twitter

573
00:26:33,610 --> 00:26:31,700
might get big dr. Schaack now yeah yeah

574
00:26:35,140 --> 00:26:33,620
I don't know I believe that when the

575
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President of the United States she

576
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starts using it I'm with you on that

577
00:26:44,169 --> 00:26:40,730
we'll have to wait and see and now check

578
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this out and I love a good conspiracy a

579
00:26:48,250 --> 00:26:47,120
couple of this one involves you a couple

580
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:48,260
of months ago I had a guest on the show

581
00:26:55,210 --> 00:26:50,809
that just got back from Egypt and in

582
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:55,220
Giza and and reported back to me live on

583
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the air with this saying that they were

584
00:27:05,140 --> 00:27:02,660
traveling south into Saqqara right off

585
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of the plateau and then off to their

586
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right and it's still in giza off to

587
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:13,400
their right is a NASA warehouse that

588
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:15,890
says NASA on the side of it with NASA

589
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:18,049
trucks and then they started to notice

590
00:27:28,810 --> 00:27:21,970
NASA trucks next to the Great Pyramid

591
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:28,820
hmm well that's your answer know

592
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anything what you know did they give any

593
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:34,780
more information that's what I depend on

594
00:27:42,270 --> 00:27:38,570
the u.s. is faster yes that's very

595
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interesting I don't know I don't know

596
00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:45,590
two months ago just got back here two

597
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:47,809
months ago Wow now you're gonna be

598
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you're gonna be out there which I'm

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going to be out there in May and June

600
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you're gonna be out there man tuned

601
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you're gonna do some filming too as well

602
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I hope so yes okay and Willie has we're

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working on a documentary with Jim feel

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to you and I have talked

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spoken about this off the air and yeah

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we're going to put together a

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documentary with Jim fields who is

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award-winning filmmaker and this is with

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Oracle the organization for the research

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of ancient cultures the nonprofit and

611
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yeah we're very excited about this

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project

613
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yeah he is he is really really good and

614
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for everybody out there Jim fields was

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the director of the ramones documentary

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that came out a couple of years ago end

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of the century end of the century it is

618
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a tremendous film he is so talented and

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so do me a favor make sure that he gets

620
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a shot of that NASA warehouse well if we

621
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find it and if it's still there and

622
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we're allowed to get a shot of it we

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will I have to be careful though because

624
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as well you've not been to Egypt you've

625
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never been to you know you have got to

626
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come to Egypt with me sometime with the

627
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IU and Rita and maybe so they what do

628
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you call it the fate or not it's a fader

629
00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:09,850
no come along yeah we could have a

630
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Phaedra not the Egypt trip sometime I

631
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:16,510
can't wait for that great time but one

632
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:17,890
thing you'll learn is that you do have

633
00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:19,690
to be careful in Egypt and sometimes

634
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they do not like things photographed or

635
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filmed so you have to be careful they're

636
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gonna hate me the selfie King too as

637
00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:31,600
well you've always got the camera at the

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ready so I know I'm I take pictures of

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00:29:41,250 --> 00:29:37,380
everything I take pictures of everything

640
00:29:43,170 --> 00:29:41,260
but in Egypt I do am careful and you

641
00:29:45,770 --> 00:29:43,180
know you don't take pictures of military

642
00:29:48,450 --> 00:29:45,780
installations that type of thing no you

643
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:48,460
on the tourist sites they're usually

644
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pretty very they're usually good about

645
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:52,330
but they will tell you bluntly if you

646
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can't take pictures of this and that in

647
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the past it was sometimes they simply

648
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didn't want you to take pictures because

649
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they want to sell postcards or books it

650
00:30:04,380 --> 00:30:01,780
was as simple as that

651
00:30:07,950 --> 00:30:04,390
well you're gonna be out there in May

652
00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:07,960
and we just said this and June just had

653
00:30:14,790 --> 00:30:11,020
this terrorist bombing of a tourist bus

654
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there in Giza still in the city it

655
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wasn't like it was at the base of the

656
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:17,980
pyramids

657
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:21,370
no but nonetheless are you concerned

658
00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:24,730
about safety well no you I think you

659
00:30:29,390 --> 00:30:26,350
always have to be concerned about safety

660
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:29,400
anywhere you go that includes America

661
00:30:35,130 --> 00:30:32,320
because I don't want gelfand engine but

662
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:35,140
we certainly have issues in America I

663
00:30:41,070 --> 00:30:37,450
grew up in Washington DC I was born in

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00:30:42,990 --> 00:30:41,080
Washington DC so I've always been wary

665
00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:43,000
that type of thing I'm certainly that

666
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:45,700
way when traveling and other countries

667
00:30:52,770 --> 00:30:49,600
including Asia but to the specific point

668
00:30:55,649 --> 00:30:52,780
is a horrible thing what happened in

669
00:30:58,350 --> 00:30:55,659
terms of the bombing it was a bomb that

670
00:31:00,600 --> 00:30:58,360
went off it was late last year just

671
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before a couple of days before New Year

672
00:31:06,210 --> 00:31:03,429
and it was I know exactly where it

673
00:31:08,909 --> 00:31:06,220
occurred I looked it up immediately I'm

674
00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:08,919
familiar with the area it's not someone

675
00:31:15,510 --> 00:31:12,280
it's not somewhere someone like myself

676
00:31:17,970 --> 00:31:15,520
would ever go personally or certainly

677
00:31:22,169 --> 00:31:17,980
not take tourists personally I don't

678
00:31:24,390 --> 00:31:22,179
know why that tourist bus was there it

679
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:24,400
was a bomb as I understand that was

680
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:28,120
planted in our behind wall so that was

681
00:31:32,610 --> 00:31:29,890
concealed it was a place where there

682
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:32,620
wasn't as much military security as

683
00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:36,370
there is other places Egypt is really a

684
00:31:41,730 --> 00:31:39,039
very very secure country it's a very

685
00:31:43,919 --> 00:31:41,740
safe country in my assessment when

686
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:43,929
something like that this happens it's a

687
00:31:50,130 --> 00:31:47,710
horrible horrible situation but it's not

688
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:50,140
the norm in Egypt it really is not the

689
00:31:58,100 --> 00:31:54,010
norm in Egypt and as soon as it happened

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00:32:01,380 --> 00:31:58,110
within the 24 hours or less the

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00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:01,390
government knew what was going on they

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00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:04,630
researched it they cracked down they

693
00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:08,049
actually I this is you know I I hate

694
00:32:15,090 --> 00:32:10,799
even thinking of it this way but 40

695
00:32:19,230 --> 00:32:15,100
terrorists were killed and essentially

696
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:19,240
what they you there's a war they have a

697
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:22,090
war internal war against terrorists and

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00:32:30,419 --> 00:32:26,890
terrorism and in Egypt it's always been

699
00:32:31,060 --> 00:32:30,429
the case that they cracked down hard I

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00:32:33,639 --> 00:32:31,070
think

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00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:33,649
rightfully so to keep their country

702
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:36,590
stable and safe so in my assessment and

703
00:32:40,330 --> 00:32:38,210
I've been going back and forth to Egypt

704
00:32:43,330 --> 00:32:40,340
for three decades now

705
00:32:47,379 --> 00:32:43,340
I think it's as safe as it's ever been

706
00:32:50,350 --> 00:32:47,389
in fact safer than it has been in many

707
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:50,360
years at this immediate point in time

708
00:32:58,539 --> 00:32:55,490
now what is interesting for me that in

709
00:33:00,340 --> 00:32:58,549
this audience with your research when

710
00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:00,350
you go back to the original stuff that

711
00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:02,470
you did with John Anthony West jaws and

712
00:33:08,110 --> 00:33:05,679
you started to run into these dates

713
00:33:10,659 --> 00:33:08,120
others out there Robert Bauval and of

714
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:10,669
course Graham Hancock and others started

715
00:33:18,249 --> 00:33:14,289
to look at this very consistent date of

716
00:33:23,259 --> 00:33:18,259
10,500 BC of course gobekli tepe comes

717
00:33:27,070 --> 00:33:23,269
into play and this date starts to spread

718
00:33:29,139 --> 00:33:27,080
around the world in different regions

719
00:33:33,249 --> 00:33:29,149
different civilizations different

720
00:33:36,539 --> 00:33:33,259
cultures this date now is very very

721
00:33:39,340 --> 00:33:36,549
consistent and it not only coincides

722
00:33:42,340 --> 00:33:39,350
your original research going back with

723
00:33:46,060 --> 00:33:42,350
John Anthony West but it's now out there

724
00:33:48,940 --> 00:33:46,070
it's almost to the point now that it is

725
00:33:51,850 --> 00:33:48,950
an accepted date of something that

726
00:33:54,369 --> 00:33:51,860
happened here on this planet not only

727
00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:54,379
throughout our community but in academia

728
00:33:59,919 --> 00:33:57,679
how does that make you feel oh it makes

729
00:34:02,889 --> 00:33:59,929
me feel good I guess I mean that people

730
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:02,899
are really recognizing this and more

731
00:34:07,749 --> 00:34:05,360
importantly I don't know I I do care

732
00:34:10,180 --> 00:34:07,759
that people recognize it that's nice etc

733
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:10,190
but what's really important is exactly

734
00:34:14,859 --> 00:34:12,079
what you said that you have this

735
00:34:17,290 --> 00:34:14,869
consistency of the evidence around the

736
00:34:21,250 --> 00:34:17,300
world and I believe that the consistency

737
00:34:24,430 --> 00:34:21,260
of the evidence is that we have a high

738
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:24,440
civilization a cycle of civilization

739
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:27,169
whatever you want to call it at the end

740
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:29,089
of the last ice age that's the ten

741
00:34:36,819 --> 00:34:31,970
thousand to ten thousand 500 BC your

742
00:34:38,980 --> 00:34:36,829
sighting and that all collapses shortly

743
00:34:41,889 --> 00:34:38,990
thereafter when I say shortly thereafter

744
00:34:44,860 --> 00:34:41,899
based on Greenland ice cores we can now

745
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:44,870
date it very precisely did 9700

746
00:34:49,540 --> 00:34:46,970
which is the end of the last ice age

747
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:49,550
which is also the same time that played

748
00:34:56,770 --> 00:34:53,290
a way back one said that Atlantis

749
00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:56,780
collapsed our Atlantis was destroyed by

750
00:35:00,520 --> 00:34:59,090
natural cataclysms so you've got

751
00:35:02,290 --> 00:35:00,530
everything from Plato which you know

752
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:02,300
when I was a graduate student people

753
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:03,850
went laughs if you would take Plato

754
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:06,170
seriously but now I think we do have to

755
00:35:13,450 --> 00:35:10,310
acknowledge that he is talking the same

756
00:35:16,420 --> 00:35:13,460
timeframe that modern science and

757
00:35:20,050 --> 00:35:16,430
mardian modern archaeology and modern

758
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:20,060
analysis of linguistic evidence modern

759
00:35:26,290 --> 00:35:23,330
analyses of archeoastronomy Robert

760
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:26,300
Bauval course comes in heavily there as

761
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:29,090
a real founder of the current wave of

762
00:35:34,660 --> 00:35:31,280
archaeal astronomy even though it gets

763
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:34,670
back to the 19th century all of this

764
00:35:39,130 --> 00:35:37,370
evidence ancient mythologies and tracing

765
00:35:43,110 --> 00:35:39,140
back the origins of ancient mythologies

766
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:43,120
it all goes back to that period of about

767
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:47,330
9,000 I would place about 9700 BC back

768
00:35:56,850 --> 00:35:51,890
to about 10,500 as you're citing that

769
00:36:00,700 --> 00:35:56,860
period there was a major civilization

770
00:36:04,690 --> 00:36:00,710
sophistication on the planet earth that

771
00:36:08,650 --> 00:36:04,700
was devastated and well it's gotten to

772
00:36:09,850 --> 00:36:08,660
the moon destroyed 9700 BC Zep tepi were

773
00:36:12,220 --> 00:36:09,860
you starting to say Zep tepi

774
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:12,230
you know it's gotten to guess and it's

775
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:15,530
gotten to the point where when I start

776
00:36:20,770 --> 00:36:17,680
to read an article or I hear a

777
00:36:23,590 --> 00:36:20,780
researcher say we've been looking into

778
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:23,600
this and and it's like I can already

779
00:36:30,070 --> 00:36:27,680
hear the year right I can already hear

780
00:36:33,370 --> 00:36:30,080
it it everything keeps pointing back to

781
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:33,380
this which takes it takes us to this the

782
00:36:37,450 --> 00:36:35,810
this crater up in Greenland now I want

783
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:37,460
to spend some time on this yeah yeah so

784
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:39,920
Zep tepi biwi dimensions up Tepe just

785
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:41,330
because I thought you said it but maybe

786
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:43,760
you weren't saying it but this is what

787
00:36:50,260 --> 00:36:46,210
the Egyptians called this early period

788
00:36:52,690 --> 00:36:50,270
Zep tepi the beginning the when I say

789
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:52,700
the Egyptians the dynastic Egyptians of

790
00:36:58,900 --> 00:36:57,200
going back 5,000 or so years ago 4,500

791
00:37:01,060 --> 00:36:58,910
5,000 years ago

792
00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:01,070
they were talking about this earlier

793
00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:03,920
period that you know all the

794
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:06,200
Egyptologists all the historians had

795
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:09,050
dismissed as again the same level as

796
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:12,320
Atlantis and Plato is just a myth but it

797
00:37:21,310 --> 00:37:15,680
turns out we now have evidence for it

798
00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:21,320
and the when we go to the the builders

799
00:37:26,620 --> 00:37:23,510
script and we start to talk about that

800
00:37:28,570 --> 00:37:26,630
where other researchers out there even

801
00:37:31,180 --> 00:37:28,580
professional academics will go well you

802
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:31,190
know even in Egypt they don't talk about

803
00:37:41,620 --> 00:37:33,050
the flood myth you know they don't refer

804
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:41,630
to Atlantis what yes they did but back

805
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:43,910
to Greenland because when that when the

806
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:46,850
news broke on this about three weeks ago

807
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:49,490
and I start to read the article I like I

808
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:53,330
just said I somehow felt right and then

809
00:37:58,900 --> 00:37:54,530
right there

810
00:38:01,330 --> 00:37:58,910
you know 12,000 years ago is the

811
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:01,340
breaking news yeah but that that's

812
00:38:07,870 --> 00:38:04,850
misleading because you also get what

813
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:07,880
becomes a cycle of everyone then jumps

814
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:09,680
on this date and if they don't have a

815
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:11,810
date for something then they put it at

816
00:38:17,260 --> 00:38:14,720
that date and that's not necessarily

817
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:17,270
real the Hiawatha crater that you're

818
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:19,610
talking about under the Greenland ice

819
00:38:25,660 --> 00:38:22,610
that had been known for some time but

820
00:38:27,610 --> 00:38:25,670
now has really been analyzed etc it's

821
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:27,620
Pleistocene and we know that's

822
00:38:32,260 --> 00:38:29,930
Pleistocene based on a strategic V

823
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:32,270
excetera that doesn't mean it's

824
00:38:37,420 --> 00:38:35,090
necessarily this period I mean well the

825
00:38:40,450 --> 00:38:37,430
Pleistocene covers about two and a half

826
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:40,460
million years roughly and it could be

827
00:38:45,010 --> 00:38:43,310
anywhere in that is it probably later in

828
00:38:47,650 --> 00:38:45,020
the Pleistocene yes but it's not

829
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:47,660
necessarily terminal Pleistocene it's

830
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:50,930
not necessarily this period this gets

831
00:38:59,050 --> 00:38:54,710
into the whole issue of what brought

832
00:39:01,870 --> 00:38:59,060
this cycle to it and what caused the end

833
00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:01,880
of the last ice age etc etc and then you

834
00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:06,020
get into the impact hypothesis

835
00:39:10,299 --> 00:39:08,470
proponents which has now been

836
00:39:14,650 --> 00:39:10,309
circulating for

837
00:39:16,749 --> 00:39:14,660
about dozen years and evidence whether

838
00:39:20,949 --> 00:39:16,759
there was an impactor or not when I say

839
00:39:24,099 --> 00:39:20,959
impactor meteorite or asteroid or

840
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:24,109
something like that comment they're all

841
00:39:31,779 --> 00:39:27,529
variations on theme and recently with

842
00:39:33,549 --> 00:39:31,789
the Hiawatha crater and Greenland a lot

843
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:33,559
of people have jumped on that and said

844
00:39:38,769 --> 00:39:35,930
what this is the evidence of the impact

845
00:39:41,410 --> 00:39:38,779
this is the crater from it or one of the

846
00:39:44,859 --> 00:39:41,420
craters from it but the dating isn't

847
00:39:47,949 --> 00:39:44,869
even secure on that in fact it's it's

848
00:39:50,650 --> 00:39:47,959
really just speculation and hypothesis

849
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:50,660
as to whether it's that date or not

850
00:39:57,459 --> 00:39:54,890
well fulfilling prophecy someone says oh

851
00:39:59,499 --> 00:39:57,469
you know they here we've got we have

852
00:40:02,140 --> 00:39:59,509
this hypothesis here we find a crater oh

853
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,150
that crater must be tied in with this

854
00:40:07,539 --> 00:40:04,400
hypothesis it must date to that period

855
00:40:09,339 --> 00:40:07,549
but you look at the actual data in the

856
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:09,349
actual research paper it doesn't say

857
00:40:14,380 --> 00:40:11,930
that at all in fact it's very ambiguous

858
00:40:17,650 --> 00:40:14,390
I mean the evidence is ambiguous as to

859
00:40:20,799 --> 00:40:17,660
what the data that is well what an

860
00:40:25,929 --> 00:40:20,809
impact crater that big would it cause

861
00:40:28,749 --> 00:40:25,939
the end of the last ice age or no that

862
00:40:31,209 --> 00:40:28,759
continued the ice age yeah yeah this is

863
00:40:33,969 --> 00:40:31,219
actually another thing that a lot of

864
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:33,979
people get very confused by and I'm glad

865
00:40:39,089 --> 00:40:35,569
you brought it up so that we can clarify

866
00:40:43,299 --> 00:40:39,099
it those that have suggested there was

867
00:40:46,419 --> 00:40:43,309
impact a comment meteorite meteor

868
00:40:48,429 --> 00:40:46,429
becoming a meteorite hits asteroid that

869
00:40:50,799 --> 00:40:48,439
type of thing let's talk in terms of a

870
00:40:52,929 --> 00:40:50,809
comet may be a break up in the

871
00:40:56,019 --> 00:40:52,939
atmosphere and a bunch of particles

872
00:40:59,229 --> 00:40:56,029
coming down that they're really

873
00:41:01,390 --> 00:40:59,239
referring to what's known as the Younger

874
00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:01,400
Dryas the beginning of the Younger Dryas

875
00:41:09,729 --> 00:41:06,140
ten thousand nine hundred BC and what

876
00:41:12,939 --> 00:41:09,739
you get from a feature like that from an

877
00:41:16,949 --> 00:41:12,949
incident like that impact is usually

878
00:41:20,109 --> 00:41:16,959
from what we understand of the past

879
00:41:22,419 --> 00:41:20,119
geological cycles you get a cooling

880
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:22,429
event because you put a lot of dust and

881
00:41:28,090 --> 00:41:23,810
debris into the atmosphere

882
00:41:30,370 --> 00:41:28,100
block out this on you essentially get a

883
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:30,380
cooling event and what you have had ten

884
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:33,770
thousand nine hundred BC is that the ice

885
00:41:39,070 --> 00:41:36,770
age was beginning to warm some and then

886
00:41:42,190 --> 00:41:39,080
you have a cooling event for twelve

887
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:42,200
hundred years before you have the final

888
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:46,850
snap out of the ice age at 9700 BC and

889
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:50,480
what is interesting is that your 10,500

890
00:41:54,490 --> 00:41:52,310
BC that you were just talking about a

891
00:41:57,550 --> 00:41:54,500
lot of people talk about that's actually

892
00:42:00,700 --> 00:41:57,560
during the Younger Dryas that's after

893
00:42:03,610 --> 00:42:00,710
the so called comet impact if there was

894
00:42:06,070 --> 00:42:03,620
a comet impact at that time and it's

895
00:42:10,930 --> 00:42:06,080
before the ultimate end of the last ice

896
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:10,940
age so it's really there there's several

897
00:42:17,290 --> 00:42:14,510
different things going on there but the

898
00:42:19,150 --> 00:42:17,300
bottom line is even at ten thousand nine

899
00:42:22,270 --> 00:42:19,160
hundred BC and I've looked at the

900
00:42:24,490 --> 00:42:22,280
evidence very carefully and I continue

901
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:24,500
to look at is more comes out it comes

902
00:42:29,890 --> 00:42:28,250
out and I've been analyzing it and at

903
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:29,900
one point I was convinced that there was

904
00:42:36,570 --> 00:42:33,710
a comet or an impactor but looking at

905
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:36,580
the evidence critically it's

906
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:40,490
non-diagnostic it's non definitive in my

907
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:43,970
assessment in my opinion and from my

908
00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:47,810
training and it can point either to a

909
00:42:53,650 --> 00:42:51,710
comet hour impactor or to the Sun and I

910
00:42:56,670 --> 00:42:53,660
believe now that all the evidence is

911
00:43:02,350 --> 00:42:56,680
pointing to the Sun and solar events

912
00:43:06,610 --> 00:43:02,360
everything from vitrified Rock to nano

913
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:06,620
diamonds to shocked quartz etc etc can

914
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:10,130
come from a solar event a major major

915
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:12,560
solar event the likes of which we've

916
00:43:21,460 --> 00:43:17,810
never seen in historical times when the

917
00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:21,470
Sun throws out huge balls of our nose

918
00:43:25,390 --> 00:43:22,520
plasma

919
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:25,400
it's basically gaseous if you would are

920
00:43:31,630 --> 00:43:28,610
charged particles coming at us at

921
00:43:34,750 --> 00:43:31,640
relativistic speeds hitting earth and in

922
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:34,760
fact interestingly a solar event like

923
00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:35,850
that

924
00:43:41,420 --> 00:43:38,910
can carve craters it can create craters

925
00:43:44,060 --> 00:43:41,430
we know this from the moon we know this

926
00:43:46,310 --> 00:43:44,070
from evidence that's coming from Mars

927
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:46,320
now so you can actually get what looked

928
00:43:54,290 --> 00:43:49,250
like impact craters that most people

929
00:43:57,350 --> 00:43:54,300
conventionally would call yeah let's say

930
00:43:59,330 --> 00:43:57,360
as the result of meteorites or comets or

931
00:44:01,580 --> 00:43:59,340
asteroids you can actually get that from

932
00:44:04,580 --> 00:44:01,590
plasma discharges from the Sun from

933
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:04,590
solar events too so the bottom line is

934
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:06,510
that some of evidence is very ambiguous

935
00:44:10,810 --> 00:44:08,850
and non diagnostic but I do think we

936
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:10,820
have other evidence that's quite

937
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:13,290
distinctive and diagnostic and point

938
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,570
pointing to actually the Sun being the

939
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:18,000
main culprit as to what was happening at

940
00:44:22,610 --> 00:44:20,010
the end of the last ice age okay let's

941
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,620
define because we're gonna spend so much

942
00:44:26,990 --> 00:44:24,480
time on this right now let's define

943
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:27,000
exactly what we're talking about the

944
00:44:33,590 --> 00:44:30,090
comet okay if we're gonna have some type

945
00:44:37,820 --> 00:44:33,600
of you know Cataclysm some type of major

946
00:44:40,250 --> 00:44:37,830
event here yeah and it there there's I

947
00:44:43,820 --> 00:44:40,260
just want to point out that as we're

948
00:44:46,820 --> 00:44:43,830
talking about there is lots of evidence

949
00:44:50,570 --> 00:44:46,830
of a major event at the end of the last

950
00:44:54,050 --> 00:44:50,580
ice age the 9700 BC great I was talking

951
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:54,060
about you have an incredible literally

952
00:44:59,230 --> 00:44:56,970
overnight and this is based on sediment

953
00:45:01,640 --> 00:44:59,240
cores Greenland ice cores etc you have

954
00:45:04,660 --> 00:45:01,650
incredible temperature changes at that

955
00:45:07,790 --> 00:45:04,670
time you have in the geologic record

956
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:07,800
earthquake activity volcanic activity

957
00:45:16,430 --> 00:45:11,130
accelerated by orders of magnitude you

958
00:45:19,090 --> 00:45:16,440
have evidence of at 9700 BC incredible

959
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:19,100
extinction events of large mammals

960
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:22,890
across the face of North America and

961
00:45:28,340 --> 00:45:26,730
around the world so you have and this is

962
00:45:30,380 --> 00:45:28,350
a little bit of the evidence you have

963
00:45:31,790 --> 00:45:30,390
lots of evidence of something major

964
00:45:34,490 --> 00:45:31,800
happening then you actually have

965
00:45:37,370 --> 00:45:34,500
extinction of humans a die-off of humans

966
00:45:39,350 --> 00:45:37,380
and a restriction and then you can see

967
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:39,360
even linguistic evidence how they were

968
00:45:45,590 --> 00:45:42,090
restricted to a small pocket and spread

969
00:45:48,170 --> 00:45:45,600
out again so there was a major Cataclysm

970
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:48,180
a major catastrophe at the end of the

971
00:45:53,210 --> 00:45:49,650
last ice age

972
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:53,220
now what are we talking about here

973
00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:55,680
when we are dealing with temperature

974
00:45:59,660 --> 00:45:57,960
changes we know about the woolly mammoth

975
00:46:02,630 --> 00:45:59,670
and we know that they were frozen in

976
00:46:04,430 --> 00:46:02,640
spot right yeah some cases now that's a

977
00:46:07,759 --> 00:46:04,440
little earlier because then later they

978
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:07,769
we have a huge upswing in temperature so

979
00:46:11,089 --> 00:46:09,089
that's what I'm saying if you go back

980
00:46:13,009 --> 00:46:11,099
into the last ice age there are several

981
00:46:15,769 --> 00:46:13,019
different things happening at different

982
00:46:18,140 --> 00:46:15,779
periods I'm actually focusing more in

983
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,150
the very end of the last ice age but in

984
00:46:22,099 --> 00:46:19,920
terms of temperature changes in some

985
00:46:25,339 --> 00:46:22,109
places locally you could be talking

986
00:46:28,670 --> 00:46:25,349
several tens of degrees Fahrenheit

987
00:46:31,489 --> 00:46:28,680
change very very very mean literally

988
00:46:33,739 --> 00:46:31,499
overnight I mean yeah up or down though

989
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:33,749
that's what I'm asking because awaking

990
00:46:39,380 --> 00:46:37,170
it and at the end of within the ice age

991
00:46:41,299 --> 00:46:39,390
for instance when you had began the

992
00:46:44,210 --> 00:46:41,309
Younger Dryas you were going down and

993
00:46:46,249 --> 00:46:44,220
but that was less temperature difference

994
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:46,259
in at the very end of the ice age when

995
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:50,130
it went up dramatically and so and you

996
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:52,710
had virtually instantaneous melting for

997
00:46:57,259 --> 00:46:54,690
instance of glaciers that type of which

998
00:46:59,150 --> 00:46:57,269
is where I'm going what yeah so when

999
00:47:03,680 --> 00:46:59,160
we're talking about a mile or two of ice

1000
00:47:06,049 --> 00:47:03,690
right literally stacked up to to melt

1001
00:47:09,019 --> 00:47:06,059
the ice I would think that it would take

1002
00:47:11,569 --> 00:47:09,029
you know tens of thousands of years I

1003
00:47:15,019 --> 00:47:11,579
don't care how warm it is but that

1004
00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:15,029
certainly was a case that was not the

1005
00:47:19,729 --> 00:47:17,220
case that was not the case that's what

1006
00:47:22,099 --> 00:47:19,739
you would think that's what I used to

1007
00:47:24,739 --> 00:47:22,109
think when I was a graduate student and

1008
00:47:27,019 --> 00:47:24,749
we used to laugh about old maybe you

1009
00:47:29,089 --> 00:47:27,029
know it only took a few centuries hahaha

1010
00:47:31,729 --> 00:47:29,099
well we can't really say that because we

1011
00:47:34,729 --> 00:47:31,739
all get flunked out right now we know

1012
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:34,739
that it literally happened there's a

1013
00:47:38,450 --> 00:47:36,690
paper that came out maybe 10 years ago

1014
00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:38,460
that was talking about maybe happened in

1015
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:40,950
three years maybe five years that type

1016
00:47:46,099 --> 00:47:43,529
of thing and that was like crazy crazy

1017
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:46,109
talk we thought now we know it literally

1018
00:47:51,799 --> 00:47:48,650
happened overnight and we have in

1019
00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:51,809
sediment cores in ice cores etc I mean

1020
00:47:54,769 --> 00:47:53,160
when I say literally overnight the

1021
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:54,779
resolution is such that you can see it

1022
00:47:59,359 --> 00:47:56,880
within it happened within a couple of

1023
00:48:01,940 --> 00:47:59,369
weeks but the resolution isn't any

1024
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:01,950
better than that and for all practical

1025
00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:03,170
purposes

1026
00:48:07,059 --> 00:48:05,119
talking overnight and probably literally

1027
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:07,069
was overnight now how would you get that

1028
00:48:12,849 --> 00:48:10,010
it's not buy all of a sudden warming the

1029
00:48:15,339 --> 00:48:12,859
general atmospheric temperature by you

1030
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:15,349
know how many degrees think of it this

1031
00:48:19,690 --> 00:48:17,089
way if you all of a sudden you take a

1032
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:19,700
blowtorch to something and you zap it

1033
00:48:26,260 --> 00:48:23,359
with incredible temperature with

1034
00:48:30,309 --> 00:48:26,270
incredible heat that will do it in what

1035
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:30,319
we had based on my reconstruction other

1036
00:48:38,020 --> 00:48:33,770
especially astrophysicists people like

1037
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:38,030
Anthony dr. anthony peratt or Atmos

1038
00:48:41,710 --> 00:48:39,770
Alamos National Laboratory

1039
00:48:44,020 --> 00:48:41,720
he's a plasma physicist who's been

1040
00:48:46,180 --> 00:48:44,030
studying this what we had was a major

1041
00:48:48,339 --> 00:48:46,190
solar outbursts something that now some

1042
00:48:50,980 --> 00:48:48,349
people are calling it is a micro nova

1043
00:48:52,839 --> 00:48:50,990
the Sun having gone micro Nova just

1044
00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:52,849
another way of saying the same thing of

1045
00:49:00,160 --> 00:48:56,240
essentially and we were hit in some

1046
00:49:05,770 --> 00:49:00,170
cases by locally by what would look like

1047
00:49:10,299 --> 00:49:05,780
huge lightning which can you know carry

1048
00:49:12,490 --> 00:49:10,309
incredible temperatures locally so

1049
00:49:15,309 --> 00:49:12,500
lightning hitting something literally

1050
00:49:19,299 --> 00:49:15,319
zapping it incinerating our you know

1051
00:49:20,770 --> 00:49:19,309
melting virtually immediately when we

1052
00:49:23,020 --> 00:49:20,780
come back after the break we're gonna

1053
00:49:25,359 --> 00:49:23,030
talk about just that we need to take

1054
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:25,369
this a little bit further because I I

1055
00:49:29,470 --> 00:49:27,650
need my brain to be clarified if we're

1056
00:49:31,660 --> 00:49:29,480
talking about a comment we're talking

1057
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:31,670
about a media or some type of strike

1058
00:49:38,260 --> 00:49:34,510
causing this in my mind it says

1059
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,270
temperatures being reduced well if it's

1060
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:40,160
the other way around and what we're

1061
00:49:46,780 --> 00:49:44,510
talking about a huge CME or solar flare

1062
00:49:48,789 --> 00:49:46,790
or some kind of plasma activity now

1063
00:49:51,069 --> 00:49:48,799
that's the exact opposite we're talking

1064
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:51,079
about temperatures being raised and

1065
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:53,450
let's finish this conversation when we

1066
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:55,609
come back I'm fascinated with this

1067
00:50:00,490 --> 00:49:57,770
something happened and it was right at

1068
00:50:02,380 --> 00:50:00,500
that magical number that magical number

1069
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:02,390
ten thousand five hundred nine thousand

1070
00:50:08,109 --> 00:50:04,730
seven hundred twelve thousand years ago

1071
00:50:10,210 --> 00:50:08,119
that's why dr. Robert M shock is here

1072
00:50:12,580 --> 00:50:10,220
I'm your host Jimmy Church this is

1073
00:50:16,290 --> 00:50:12,590
black more with dr. Schaack right after

1074
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:26,130
[Music]

1075
00:50:32,340 --> 00:50:29,310
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

1076
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:32,350
you're listening to faint and black

1077
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:34,880
always on the edge of the hottest

1078
00:50:39,460 --> 00:50:36,170
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1079
00:50:58,090 --> 00:50:39,470
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welcome back beta-blockers Jimmy Church

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our guest tonight dr. Robert M shock

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tomorrow night is Fator night open lines

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all night long and right now we're gonna

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continue the conversation that we left

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off with before the break where we are

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talking about these solar events and

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Robert helped me understand what we're

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talking about here in this type of solar

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outburst or a mini Nova I am picturing

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in my mind's eye a giant active bright

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cloud of plasma traveling across the

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solar system and earth happened to just

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be in the way is that what we're talking

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about yeah that's one way to picture it

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so a couple of quick comments because as

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you were leading into the last

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commercial break you were talking about

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how a comet would make things colder

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solar outbursts would make things warmer

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or to put another way you were saying

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well is it cold or warm the bottom line

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is what we know geologically is at 9700

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BC we had a dramatic warming event

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that's the end of the last ice age etc

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comet would not do that

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do that a meteorite or asteroid would

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not do that it would generally make it

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colder which is why some people have

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suggested there was one at ten thousand

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nine hundred BC because we have the

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beginning of a cooling event but what's

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really critical and where all the

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civilizations are brought to their knees

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and destroyed we're armed at the time

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the time when civilizations are brought

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down and destroyed this earlier cycle of

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civilization when we have the major

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extinction events when we have all these

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other calamities that's 9700 BC that's a

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major warming event now what you were

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just talking about one way to picture it

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one way to picture it is this huge

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coronal mass ejection this huge ball of

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plasma and that type of material you

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know protons electrically charged

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particles of electrons hydrogen etc all

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hurdling tor

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the earth and included with in this

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especially if you have a major one I

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just want to point this out would be

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heavier elements also residual heavier

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element so even things like iridium and

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platinum you can get spikes because of

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this I just want to throw that out

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because sometimes people say well we

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have a really amor platinum spike that

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must prove a meteorite no it doesn't but

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this would be hurling toward the earth

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if we happen to be in the way we would

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be hit there are other scenarios however

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where the Sun undergoes a major outburst

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what's been sometimes known as a micro

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nova or a mini nova where in fact you

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get ejecta coming from the Sun full

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spread if you would and everything is

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being hit and there's no way for the

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earth to realistically get out the way

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or the other plans to get out of the way

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so you have different types of solar

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outburst

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either way it could be devastating will

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be devastating to creatures on the

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surface of the earth and this is exactly

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what happened based on the evidence in

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9700 BC at the end of last ice age now

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we have everything that is left behind

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that different researchers have been

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pointing to which is of course you know

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the vitrified Rock and the glass and and

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the shock quartz and nano diamonds is

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the the big you know talk today yeah

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yeah no no diamonds just if I could

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address that really quickly nano

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diamonds are the big talk of the day in

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some cases daño diamonds are really poor

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evidence in most situations because nano

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diamonds are actually quite common and

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they tend to collect as like deposits

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this is I don't mean throw too much

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geology out but you can think about

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David diamonds are very hard nanos

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diamonds are just incredibly small

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microscopic diamonds and you can get

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deposits or concentrations of nano

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diamonds in all kinds of situations

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because they're left behind as a residue

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when everything

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erodes away or they collect as I said

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00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:25,650
live deposits essentially if you think

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of someone winnowing material or

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someone's panning for gold but in a

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00:59:36,410 --> 00:59:33,890
natural setting you get certain things

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00:59:39,140 --> 00:59:36,420
coming out and collecting and you get

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that with nano diamonds so in some cases

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you can have collections of nano

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00:59:45,740 --> 00:59:43,770
diamonds that actually are much much

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older than the deposits they're found in

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00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:47,730
then the other problem with nano

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diamonds is nano diamonds that appear to

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be caused by impactors may not

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01:00:02,530 --> 00:59:58,680
necessarily be from impactors there's

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evidence that they with shot quartz and

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01:00:11,570 --> 01:00:07,230
other things of the same genre I'll use

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01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:11,580
that term can be produced by lightning

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01:00:16,670 --> 01:00:14,160
strikes even conventional lightning

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01:00:18,620 --> 01:00:16,680
strikes and when we're talking about a

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01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:18,630
solar outburst you could think of an

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01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:21,450
equivalent of lightning strikes but many

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01:00:28,340 --> 01:00:24,770
many many orders of magnitude more

1276
01:00:31,220 --> 01:00:28,350
powerful but even with modern lightning

1277
01:00:34,210 --> 01:00:31,230
strikes in the last 2 or 3 years there

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01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:34,220
has been an allison descent evidence

1279
01:00:39,470 --> 01:00:37,410
indicating that when you look at the

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mineralogy of what's formed where a

1281
01:00:45,170 --> 01:00:42,450
lightning hits rock where a hits sand on

1282
01:00:49,850 --> 01:00:45,180
a beach etc you get all these same

1283
01:00:53,020 --> 01:00:49,860
features that people for so long thought

1284
01:00:55,820 --> 01:00:53,030
could only be caused by physical

1285
01:00:58,820 --> 01:00:55,830
impactor such as meteorites and comets

1286
01:01:00,680 --> 01:00:58,830
and asteroids then I wanted to just

1287
01:01:03,770 --> 01:01:00,690
mention before I forget and you just

1288
01:01:06,110 --> 01:01:03,780
brought up vitrified Rock so for

1289
01:01:08,420 --> 01:01:06,120
instance in Egypt in what's known as the

1290
01:01:12,380 --> 01:01:08,430
Libyan desert although is actually Egypt

1291
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:12,390
you get the Libyan desert glass covers

1292
01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:15,920
literally spread out as a field of

1293
01:01:21,500 --> 01:01:19,440
natural glass over about 2,500 square

1294
01:01:25,220 --> 01:01:21,510
kilometres if I remember correctly a

1295
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:25,230
huge vast area the conventional view has

1296
01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:27,690
always been must have been meteorite or

1297
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:29,310
something like that but there's no

1298
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:31,050
crater there's no evidence

1299
01:01:39,170 --> 01:01:35,130
of actual extraterrestrial material it's

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01:01:43,460 --> 01:01:39,180
fused quartz and other things that were

1301
01:01:46,070 --> 01:01:43,470
heated to a incredibly high degree arm

1302
01:01:50,060 --> 01:01:46,080
to the point where they melted and then

1303
01:01:51,830 --> 01:01:50,070
Rican shield as glass well a logical

1304
01:01:53,180 --> 01:01:51,840
explanation when you start thinking

1305
01:01:54,650 --> 01:01:53,190
about and putting all the evidence

1306
01:01:57,380 --> 01:01:54,660
together this is what you would get

1307
01:01:59,650 --> 01:01:57,390
during a major major solar outbursts

1308
01:02:03,020 --> 01:01:59,660
where this must have been an area where

1309
01:02:05,090 --> 01:02:03,030
you had a direct plasma strike if you

1310
01:02:08,030 --> 01:02:05,100
would and that's just one example you've

1311
01:02:10,910 --> 01:02:08,040
got another one the so called Dhokla

1312
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:10,920
glass in Egypt also that covers another

1313
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:14,130
four hundred square kilometres and alive

1314
01:02:17,570 --> 01:02:15,810
is glass some of it looks like what

1315
01:02:19,940 --> 01:02:17,580
people will expect glass to look like

1316
01:02:22,730 --> 01:02:19,950
other looks more like what I would call

1317
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:22,740
slag deposits where the melt head the

1318
01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:25,530
rock has been melted it serve bubbles up

1319
01:02:30,260 --> 01:02:27,630
and then rican Geo's is a very crude

1320
01:02:33,050 --> 01:02:30,270
natural glass and we're finding this

1321
01:02:35,420 --> 01:02:33,060
around the world at this time period now

1322
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:35,430
at the end of the last ice age wouldn't

1323
01:02:42,110 --> 01:02:39,690
there have been well you're gonna answer

1324
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:42,120
this I'm picturing if something like

1325
01:02:49,370 --> 01:02:44,370
that occurs wouldn't there have been

1326
01:02:53,510 --> 01:02:49,380
massive fires I mean we have evidence of

1327
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:53,520
that massive fires at that time because

1328
01:02:58,670 --> 01:02:56,370
in some cases it literally incinerated

1329
01:03:01,550 --> 01:02:58,680
what was on the surface so if you have

1330
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:01,560
volatile moderna Bowl combustible

1331
01:03:06,500 --> 01:03:04,290
materials you were setting massive fires

1332
01:03:09,740 --> 01:03:06,510
the other thing you have is massive

1333
01:03:12,380 --> 01:03:09,750
flooding and massive rain because you

1334
01:03:15,290 --> 01:03:12,390
are melting so much water whether it's

1335
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:15,300
hitting glaciers and essentially you

1336
01:03:23,540 --> 01:03:18,570
know vaporizing them immediately hitting

1337
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:23,550
water and vaporizing it and plus the

1338
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:26,130
overall increased global temperatures

1339
01:03:31,490 --> 01:03:29,130
which would put a lot you know which

1340
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:31,500
would put a lot more water into the

1341
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:33,930
atmosphere the atmosphere can only hold

1342
01:03:38,770 --> 01:03:36,530
so much water so it comes back down as

1343
01:03:43,540 --> 01:03:38,780
precipitation

1344
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:43,550
and so you had massive flooding massive

1345
01:03:50,780 --> 01:03:46,850
rises in sea level along the coast but

1346
01:03:54,500 --> 01:03:50,790
surface flooding inland flooding flash

1347
01:03:56,780 --> 01:03:54,510
floods that type of thing so you got

1348
01:04:00,440 --> 01:03:56,790
both going on at the same time is it

1349
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:00,450
easy then for two different researchers

1350
01:04:07,250 --> 01:04:03,330
to I'm going to use the term long here

1351
01:04:10,550 --> 01:04:07,260
but have a miss diagnosis right now one

1352
01:04:14,180 --> 01:04:10,560
being the possibility of an asteroid

1353
01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:14,190
impact yeah yes I think it's absolutely

1354
01:04:20,870 --> 01:04:18,110
easy for a misdiagnosis to occur

1355
01:04:23,210 --> 01:04:20,880
especially given that and I am guilty of

1356
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:23,220
this in the past and I'm probably guilty

1357
01:04:26,990 --> 01:04:25,050
of it now but I won't know that until

1358
01:04:28,670 --> 01:04:27,000
the future and more evidence comes in

1359
01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:28,680
I'm not saying I'm guilty of what we're

1360
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:29,880
talking about right now but you know in

1361
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:33,090
little things right um for a long time I

1362
01:04:38,570 --> 01:04:35,610
looked a lot of this data with the same

1363
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:38,580
lens the same eyes the same training

1364
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:41,610
because I went to Yale for my PhD in

1365
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:44,130
geology and geophysics was my master's

1366
01:04:50,510 --> 01:04:46,890
degrees as I heard you commented

1367
01:04:54,740 --> 01:04:50,520
commented in introducing me and we were

1368
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:54,750
all trained to look a certain way at

1369
01:05:00,170 --> 01:04:56,690
things because we didn't know any better

1370
01:05:03,590 --> 01:05:00,180
essentially when you saw certain types

1371
01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:03,600
of things like vitrified rock or nano

1372
01:05:10,610 --> 01:05:06,960
diamonds are shocked quartz the only

1373
01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:10,620
logical conclusion one was taught is

1374
01:05:16,790 --> 01:05:13,200
that must be some kind of impactor

1375
01:05:19,010 --> 01:05:16,800
asteroid meteorite comment we weren't

1376
01:05:21,290 --> 01:05:19,020
thinking about lightning we weren't

1377
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:21,300
thinking about solar outburst

1378
01:05:29,450 --> 01:05:25,110
because we have no we have no evidence

1379
01:05:31,370 --> 01:05:29,460
of this in recorded history everyone was

1380
01:05:33,830 --> 01:05:31,380
still thinking the Sun is relatively

1381
01:05:37,580 --> 01:05:33,840
stable nothing like this whatever really

1382
01:05:40,130 --> 01:05:37,590
happened so it wasn't even a possibility

1383
01:05:42,740 --> 01:05:40,140
that we entertained

1384
01:05:44,570 --> 01:05:42,750
how much more like for me once you start

1385
01:05:47,300 --> 01:05:44,580
looking at that all the evidence falls

1386
01:05:51,050 --> 01:05:47,310
into place and it explains everything so

1387
01:05:51,740 --> 01:05:51,060
much better how much warning time do you

1388
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:51,750
have

1389
01:05:58,970 --> 01:05:55,890
and I I'm gonna ask you this again when

1390
01:06:02,810 --> 01:05:58,980
it happens again or back then you and I

1391
01:06:04,510 --> 01:06:02,820
are out at gobekli tepe right ten

1392
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:04,520
thousand years ago you and I are

1393
01:06:08,930 --> 01:06:06,810
performing a ceremony with some buddies

1394
01:06:11,930 --> 01:06:08,940
right we're hanging out performing a

1395
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:11,940
ceremony and looking at the sky when

1396
01:06:17,390 --> 01:06:15,690
something happens how much time are we

1397
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:17,400
talking about here are we talking about

1398
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:20,250
seconds minutes or days no no probably

1399
01:06:27,290 --> 01:06:23,610
what you're talking about is you would

1400
01:06:29,630 --> 01:06:27,300
see a flash you as crises solar flare so

1401
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:29,640
these flashes of light if it was a

1402
01:06:34,370 --> 01:06:32,010
daylight yes that's a stay light beam

1403
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:34,380
right on so we're seeing the Sun and all

1404
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:38,130
of a sudden we see solar flares coming

1405
01:06:43,730 --> 01:06:41,130
out those take those tribal at the speed

1406
01:06:45,710 --> 01:06:43,740
of light from the Sun so we're not

1407
01:06:47,390 --> 01:06:45,720
seeing them in real time we're seeing by

1408
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:47,400
a delay what is that eight minutes or

1409
01:06:53,210 --> 01:06:50,010
something right but but instantaneous

1410
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:53,220
for us as far as we're concerned now

1411
01:06:59,210 --> 01:06:56,370
based on the evidence we have for the

1412
01:07:01,640 --> 01:06:59,220
how fast coronal mass ejections can

1413
01:07:05,210 --> 01:07:01,650
travel and how fast solar winds can

1414
01:07:07,010 --> 01:07:05,220
travel etc once you see flares like that

1415
01:07:10,910 --> 01:07:07,020
you know that something's probably

1416
01:07:14,350 --> 01:07:10,920
coming behind it and that something is

1417
01:07:16,460 --> 01:07:14,360
traveling at very high speeds even

1418
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:16,470
relativistic speeds you know close to

1419
01:07:21,020 --> 01:07:18,690
the speed of light but not at the speed

1420
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:21,030
of light an answer to your question it

1421
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:23,610
could be anywhere off the top of my head

1422
01:07:29,060 --> 01:07:26,490
from 16 hours if it was moving very

1423
01:07:32,450 --> 01:07:29,070
quickly that would be served typical or

1424
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:32,460
maybe a couple of days couple of days

1425
01:07:38,780 --> 01:07:36,330
and we're not talking a long time and in

1426
01:07:40,610 --> 01:07:38,790
the meantime you've got solar flares

1427
01:07:43,610 --> 01:07:40,620
you've probably got things coming in

1428
01:07:45,980 --> 01:07:43,620
between what's sometimes known as solar

1429
01:07:47,690 --> 01:07:45,990
particle events or proton events you've

1430
01:07:51,170 --> 01:07:47,700
got different things moving at different

1431
01:07:55,820 --> 01:07:51,180
speeds from the speed of light for

1432
01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:55,830
actual electromagnetic today particles

1433
01:08:00,410 --> 01:07:58,650
traveling at various relativistic speeds

1434
01:08:01,970 --> 01:08:00,420
so you're getting pummeled by a number

1435
01:08:04,940 --> 01:08:01,980
of different things

1436
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:04,950
if we were back in gobekli tepe times

1437
01:08:08,690 --> 01:08:06,930
and we'll assume for a second that the

1438
01:08:11,090 --> 01:08:08,700
Quebec Lee tepee people did not have

1439
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:11,100
cellphones or the equivalent did not

1440
01:08:17,450 --> 01:08:13,650
have computers or the equivalent they

1441
01:08:19,700 --> 01:08:17,460
may have you know even a few days to

1442
01:08:24,289 --> 01:08:19,710
before it all hits that hits and

1443
01:08:27,769 --> 01:08:24,299
everything you know comes to be if we're

1444
01:08:29,599 --> 01:08:27,779
talking in modern times your computers

1445
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:29,609
and cell phones and communication

1446
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:31,890
systems are going to start coming going

1447
01:08:39,170 --> 01:08:36,480
down even before or the final hit even

1448
01:08:42,170 --> 01:08:39,180
before the mage or coronal mass ejection

1449
01:08:45,309 --> 01:08:42,180
am I making sense yes you are and so do

1450
01:08:46,700 --> 01:08:45,319
you and I have enough time to bury

1451
01:08:52,130 --> 01:08:46,710
gobekli tepe

1452
01:08:54,289 --> 01:08:52,140
to save it this is another issue what I

1453
01:08:57,470 --> 01:08:54,299
believe was happening with gobekli tepe

1454
01:09:00,769 --> 01:08:57,480
and what I believe happens when you have

1455
01:09:02,930 --> 01:09:00,779
these major solar outbursts is you have

1456
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:02,940
a big one and I think there was a really

1457
01:09:08,690 --> 01:09:05,730
big one at the end of the last ice age

1458
01:09:11,780 --> 01:09:08,700
that's what we see is a huge spike but

1459
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:11,790
what you also have in the geological

1460
01:09:18,140 --> 01:09:13,770
record in the high score record is a

1461
01:09:22,370 --> 01:09:18,150
number of spikes after that of lesser

1462
01:09:25,340 --> 01:09:22,380
intensity but still coming so the Sun

1463
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:25,350
was very volatile it was going through

1464
01:09:32,300 --> 01:09:28,770
these up-and-down swings if I could put

1465
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:32,310
it this way and to use the geological

1466
01:09:38,660 --> 01:09:35,250
analogy it was like a major earthquake

1467
01:09:41,180 --> 01:09:38,670
with aftershocks and maybe even some

1468
01:09:43,729 --> 01:09:41,190
four shocks - but aftershocks definitely

1469
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:43,739
so what I believe we have at Quebec Lee

1470
01:09:48,620 --> 01:09:45,330
today have you analyzed it very

1471
01:09:52,670 --> 01:09:48,630
carefully is it was hit parts were

1472
01:09:54,740 --> 01:09:52,680
knocked down that would have been due to

1473
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:54,750
probably the accompanying earthquakes

1474
01:09:59,330 --> 01:09:57,090
etc and earthquakes are very strongly

1475
01:10:01,610 --> 01:09:59,340
correlated with solar activity we now

1476
01:10:04,430 --> 01:10:01,620
know that even in the present day and

1477
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:04,440
there are reasons for that but I think

1478
01:10:11,420 --> 01:10:07,770
that Gobekli Tepe was being hit they

1479
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:11,430
were trying to quickly react it than

1480
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:14,010
they would get hit again baby a bit more

1481
01:10:18,209 --> 01:10:15,489
minor so

1482
01:10:22,020 --> 01:10:18,219
outbursts another coronal mass ejection

1483
01:10:24,540 --> 01:10:22,030
coming in and eventually just got to be

1484
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:24,550
so much I think they are the evidence

1485
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:26,770
indicates they were putting the pillars

1486
01:10:32,310 --> 01:10:30,130
up you know sort of in crude very

1487
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:32,320
crudely into position and covered the

1488
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:34,530
whole thing over so would they have time

1489
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:38,800
yes but they were taking time from just

1490
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:41,650
trying to survive otherwise to bury it

1491
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:43,330
and preserve it because it must have

1492
01:10:49,380 --> 01:10:46,210
been incredibly important to them but so

1493
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:49,390
it's not just one big fell swoop yes

1494
01:10:53,790 --> 01:10:51,370
it's one big fell swoop but then they're

1495
01:10:58,740 --> 01:10:53,800
what I call aftershocks to use the

1496
01:11:00,780 --> 01:10:58,750
geological analogy no wasn't that's when

1497
01:11:03,979 --> 01:11:00,790
they were really trying to reconstruct

1498
01:11:06,090 --> 01:11:03,989
and then ultimately buried gobekli tepe

1499
01:11:09,050 --> 01:11:06,100
something else that I was just thinking

1500
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:09,060
of as we were talking about this even in

1501
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:11,170
1859 when we had the so-called

1502
01:11:15,390 --> 01:11:13,210
Carrington event yep when I say

1503
01:11:18,510 --> 01:11:15,400
so-called it's it's not so called it's

1504
01:11:22,229 --> 01:11:18,520
named after Richard Carrington who saw

1505
01:11:25,950 --> 01:11:22,239
the first solar flares and what I meant

1506
01:11:28,410 --> 01:11:25,960
by this so-called was that the event we

1507
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:28,420
call it the Carrington event actually it

1508
01:11:33,870 --> 01:11:31,090
was a couple of coronal mass ejections

1509
01:11:36,570 --> 01:11:33,880
given off by the Sun one after the other

1510
01:11:39,690 --> 01:11:36,580
so it's like we were hit and then we

1511
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:39,700
were hit again right after that now when

1512
01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:42,489
you have a major major solar flare or a

1513
01:11:48,270 --> 01:11:46,150
mini Nova or micro Nova from the Sun we

1514
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:48,280
don't know exactly what it's going to be

1515
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:49,930
like we haven't experienced this before

1516
01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:52,330
whether that might even be I'm

1517
01:11:58,620 --> 01:11:54,790
speculating a bit here but with cause

1518
01:12:00,780 --> 01:11:58,630
with reason it may even be that it gives

1519
01:12:04,530 --> 01:12:00,790
off is sort of like hiccups and hiccups

1520
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:04,540
again sneezes and hiccups again so that

1521
01:12:12,150 --> 01:12:09,090
we're getting pummeled by some in a row

1522
01:12:14,729 --> 01:12:12,160
separate by you know maybe a few years

1523
01:12:18,750 --> 01:12:14,739
or a decade or maybe even only a few

1524
01:12:20,310 --> 01:12:18,760
months what about going underground well

1525
01:12:23,010 --> 01:12:20,320
that's what you have to do that's how

1526
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:23,020
people survived there are no doubt that

1527
01:12:29,380 --> 01:12:26,560
Turkey you get dirty exactly what

1528
01:12:31,530 --> 01:12:29,390
Cappadocia you'll see when we go to

1529
01:12:33,790 --> 01:12:31,540
have you been to Quebec wake up eh nope

1530
01:12:37,420 --> 01:12:33,800
okay so we're going to take a big trip

1531
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:37,430
to Rio Rita and Katy and some phaidor

1532
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:41,450
nuts right Egypt will go to Turkey will

1533
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:43,760
go Cappadocia we'll go get but got back

1534
01:12:50,410 --> 01:12:46,640
Gobekli Tepe MA now my tongues gained

1535
01:12:51,940 --> 01:12:50,420
tight Quebec Cappadocia is incredible

1536
01:12:55,450 --> 01:12:51,950
because you have all the underground

1537
01:12:58,780 --> 01:12:55,460
cities there but what is important to me

1538
01:13:01,540 --> 01:12:58,790
is you have the right geological terrain

1539
01:13:04,510 --> 01:13:01,550
so you've got a fairly soft volcanic

1540
01:13:07,480 --> 01:13:04,520
rock that's easy to carve into once you

1541
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:07,490
carve into it it hardens and it's in

1542
01:13:14,410 --> 01:13:10,930
would be incredibly good to survive

1543
01:13:16,690 --> 01:13:14,420
underground from these type of surface

1544
01:13:20,730 --> 01:13:16,700
events because among other things you

1545
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:20,740
would get very powerful armed solar

1546
01:13:26,380 --> 01:13:24,320
flares and as we said coronal mass

1547
01:13:28,420 --> 01:13:26,390
ejections what would what would look

1548
01:13:30,310 --> 01:13:28,430
like huge lightning bolts hitting so to

1549
01:13:33,070 --> 01:13:30,320
protect from that but you would also

1550
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:33,080
have radiation levels on the surface of

1551
01:13:38,710 --> 01:13:36,320
the earth very strong radiation levels

1552
01:13:41,740 --> 01:13:38,720
we can estimate that they were strong

1553
01:13:45,370 --> 01:13:41,750
enough in some cases large mammals would

1554
01:13:47,710 --> 01:13:45,380
die within three days to a week or so

1555
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:47,720
humans are large mammals what's the best

1556
01:13:53,020 --> 01:13:50,930
way to survive this to get out of the

1557
01:13:54,370 --> 01:13:53,030
way of the surface radiation to go

1558
01:13:57,300 --> 01:13:54,380
underground because the rock will

1559
01:14:00,340 --> 01:13:57,310
protect you that this is very well known

1560
01:14:02,260 --> 01:14:00,350
people who worry about these things to

1561
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:02,270
this day if they're going to protect

1562
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:04,010
their computers and whatnot

1563
01:14:09,970 --> 01:14:07,370
they put them in underground caverns and

1564
01:14:13,540 --> 01:14:09,980
bunkers that type of thing this the rock

1565
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:13,550
will protect from radiation so going

1566
01:14:17,890 --> 01:14:15,770
into ground really is the way to go and

1567
01:14:19,780 --> 01:14:17,900
I want to point out that the underground

1568
01:14:21,790 --> 01:14:19,790
shelters were talking about if you were

1569
01:14:23,530 --> 01:14:21,800
talking about comet bombardments it

1570
01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:23,540
wouldn't help you at all because they

1571
01:14:28,030 --> 01:14:25,040
would collapse under that type of

1572
01:14:30,490 --> 01:14:28,040
bombardment but from a solar event they

1573
01:14:33,010 --> 01:14:30,500
would be excellent and we have

1574
01:14:36,540 --> 01:14:33,020
linguistic evidence going back to the

1575
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:36,550
end of the last ice age that

1576
01:14:40,930 --> 01:14:38,810
indo-european languages would they

1577
01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:40,940
originate from they actually originated

1578
01:14:47,649 --> 01:14:41,920
from

1579
01:14:50,589 --> 01:14:47,659
that can be traced by looking at

1580
01:14:53,890 --> 01:14:50,599
language families in sort of doing a

1581
01:14:57,719 --> 01:14:53,900
genealogy of language and dating it to

1582
01:15:00,729 --> 01:14:57,729
when various branches split off

1583
01:15:02,259 --> 01:15:00,739
linguistically and it's amazing the

1584
01:15:04,660 --> 01:15:02,269
people that have done these studies

1585
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:04,670
linguists they don't care about you know

1586
01:15:08,379 --> 01:15:06,050
what I'm talking about

1587
01:15:12,489 --> 01:15:08,389
but they trace it back to a pocket of

1588
01:15:14,290 --> 01:15:12,499
people that survived about ten thousand

1589
01:15:18,370 --> 01:15:14,300
nine thousand seven hundred years ago

1590
01:15:20,469 --> 01:15:18,380
not years ago in BC almost twelve

1591
01:15:22,930 --> 01:15:20,479
thousand years ago to that region in

1592
01:15:25,870 --> 01:15:22,940
Turkey which is exactly where you find

1593
01:15:27,609 --> 01:15:25,880
the underground cities now I do want to

1594
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:27,619
point out you know I'm saying a lot but

1595
01:15:32,379 --> 01:15:29,840
I always like to clarify things these

1596
01:15:35,319 --> 01:15:32,389
underground cities there is no doubt

1597
01:15:37,839 --> 01:15:35,329
they were used thousands of years later

1598
01:15:40,359 --> 01:15:37,849
the standard archaeologists will say to

1599
01:15:42,250 --> 01:15:40,369
you oh you know they might even say

1600
01:15:45,189 --> 01:15:42,260
shocked is crazy talking about this

1601
01:15:47,529 --> 01:15:45,199
because they know that these were used a

1602
01:15:50,049 --> 01:15:47,539
thousand years ago two thousand years

1603
01:15:51,700 --> 01:15:50,059
ago maybe three thousand years ago I've

1604
01:15:53,500 --> 01:15:51,710
explored them I've looked at them very

1605
01:15:56,350 --> 01:15:53,510
carefully yes of course they were used

1606
01:15:59,020 --> 01:15:56,360
then but that doesn't mean that's when

1607
01:16:01,180 --> 01:15:59,030
the whole thing began that doesn't mean

1608
01:16:03,459 --> 01:16:01,190
that they were reusing something that

1609
01:16:05,319 --> 01:16:03,469
was much older and there's lots of

1610
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:05,329
geological evidence that these things go

1611
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:09,050
back much further in time than the

1612
01:16:15,310 --> 01:16:12,050
standard historians say for instance you

1613
01:16:18,399 --> 01:16:15,320
they had to carve these out they had to

1614
01:16:20,830 --> 01:16:18,409
remove incredible amounts of rock where

1615
01:16:23,290 --> 01:16:20,840
are the huge piles of rock that they

1616
01:16:25,180 --> 01:16:23,300
removed if they were only a couple of

1617
01:16:27,310 --> 01:16:25,190
thousand years old at most you would

1618
01:16:30,219 --> 01:16:27,320
still have these huge piles of rock but

1619
01:16:32,319 --> 01:16:30,229
because they go back so far I believe

1620
01:16:35,229 --> 01:16:32,329
that rock has you know weathered away

1621
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:35,239
and and gone with a breeze so to speak I

1622
01:16:40,299 --> 01:16:37,489
have the same I have the same arguments

1623
01:16:42,370 --> 01:16:40,309
when it comes to Giza in the great

1624
01:16:44,770 --> 01:16:42,380
pyramids and we'll discuss that in a

1625
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:44,780
second yeah well yeah I mean all these

1626
01:16:49,180 --> 01:16:47,449
all these sites not all of them Quebec

1627
01:16:52,060 --> 01:16:49,190
Lee Tepe was not reused because it was

1628
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:52,070
buried and preserved right but he's the

1629
01:16:59,140 --> 01:16:55,130
sphinx Cappadocia these

1630
01:17:03,250 --> 01:16:59,150
reused and venerated even for thousands

1631
01:17:04,930 --> 01:17:03,260
of years later so you know it's it's I

1632
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:04,940
don't want to say the obvious but you

1633
01:17:12,100 --> 01:17:08,080
know you go to the Colosseum in Rome

1634
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:12,110
that was built in the 1st century AD 500

1635
01:17:17,230 --> 01:17:14,810
years from now someone finds the coin

1636
01:17:19,900 --> 01:17:17,240
that I dropped there and they show this

1637
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:19,910
is only 500 years old that's nonsense

1638
01:17:27,490 --> 01:17:24,050
that's right and now okay so the same

1639
01:17:29,620 --> 01:17:27,500
evidence that we are talking about here

1640
01:17:31,300 --> 01:17:29,630
at different sites around the world I'm

1641
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:31,310
talking about the vitrified Rock and the

1642
01:17:37,930 --> 01:17:34,610
shocked quartz and nano diamonds is this

1643
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:37,940
consistent around the planet in other

1644
01:17:44,290 --> 01:17:40,690
words dr. Schaack could you go to

1645
01:17:46,900 --> 01:17:44,300
Indonesia and go to the same time period

1646
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:46,910
and and go through the layers of

1647
01:17:51,580 --> 01:17:48,530
sediment and find the same evidence

1648
01:17:55,060 --> 01:17:51,590
there of this at that time period as you

1649
01:17:58,510 --> 01:17:55,070
would in in North America or in

1650
01:18:00,820 --> 01:17:58,520
Greenland or across Europe and Africa is

1651
01:18:02,860 --> 01:18:00,830
the same evidence there consistently

1652
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:02,870
around the planet as opposed to being

1653
01:18:09,010 --> 01:18:07,010
localized yes no no it's actually very

1654
01:18:12,610 --> 01:18:09,020
consistent as I'm piecing it together

1655
01:18:15,970 --> 01:18:12,620
around the planet which also indicates

1656
01:18:18,130 --> 01:18:15,980
that we're talking solar events because

1657
01:18:21,220 --> 01:18:18,140
when you have a major solar event like

1658
01:18:25,180 --> 01:18:21,230
this it doesn't hit in just one spot it

1659
01:18:27,310 --> 01:18:25,190
actually plows into the earth piles into

1660
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:27,320
the magnetosphere plows into the

1661
01:18:32,050 --> 01:18:29,840
atmosphere if you would and it spreads

1662
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:32,060
around the globe I mean this is a way

1663
01:18:39,660 --> 01:18:34,370
that electric current currents are

1664
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:39,670
caused carried etc and we find it and

1665
01:18:44,890 --> 01:18:42,290
consistently not only around the world

1666
01:18:47,020 --> 01:18:44,900
now as we know what evidence to look for

1667
01:18:48,460 --> 01:18:47,030
and that's part of the problem to look

1668
01:18:50,590 --> 01:18:48,470
for the evidence so when I was a

1669
01:18:52,210 --> 01:18:50,600
graduate student at Yale we weren't

1670
01:18:54,010 --> 01:18:52,220
thinking these terms and we weren't

1671
01:18:56,410 --> 01:18:54,020
looking for this type of evidence that

1672
01:18:58,030 --> 01:18:56,420
you know you know people don't realize

1673
01:18:59,950 --> 01:18:58,040
this sometimes when they're not in the

1674
01:19:00,400 --> 01:18:59,960
sciences but maybe they realize it in

1675
01:19:02,350 --> 01:19:00,410
real life

1676
01:19:04,060 --> 01:19:02,360
if you're not tuned in to something

1677
01:19:06,010 --> 01:19:04,070
you're not looking for something you

1678
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:06,020
often don't notice it there's been all

1679
01:19:08,890 --> 01:19:08,090
kinds of psychological studies about

1680
01:19:12,939 --> 01:19:08,900
this for

1681
01:19:14,979 --> 01:19:12,949
even for you know ordinary things and

1682
01:19:18,100 --> 01:19:14,989
that's one reason eyewitnesses and

1683
01:19:20,919 --> 01:19:18,110
courts and trials can be so far off

1684
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:20,929
because they're looking you know you

1685
01:19:24,340 --> 01:19:22,610
don't see what you're not looking for in

1686
01:19:27,729 --> 01:19:24,350
many cases but the answer to your

1687
01:19:29,919 --> 01:19:27,739
question is yes I'm convinced we're game

1688
01:19:33,459 --> 01:19:29,929
very consistent picture around the world

1689
01:19:37,390 --> 01:19:33,469
and it's not just on earth so for

1690
01:19:40,419 --> 01:19:37,400
instance we have to look at the moon and

1691
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:40,429
the moon has evidence of this also in

1692
01:19:46,390 --> 01:19:43,130
fact some of the earliest evidence for a

1693
01:19:50,229 --> 01:19:46,400
major solar output for a major solar

1694
01:19:52,950 --> 01:19:50,239
outburst was found by he's now deceased

1695
01:19:54,180 --> 01:19:52,960
unfortunately by but astronomer

1696
01:19:58,240 --> 01:19:54,190
astrophysicist

1697
01:20:01,780 --> 01:19:58,250
whose name was Thomas gold and he found

1698
01:20:04,750 --> 01:20:01,790
based on the Apollo missions and you

1699
01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:04,760
know what was that almost 50 years ago

1700
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:08,710
now odd the Apollo missions

1701
01:20:15,550 --> 01:20:12,800
vitrification and glazed lunar rocks as

1702
01:20:18,820 --> 01:20:15,560
he taught called it that indicate there

1703
01:20:20,919 --> 01:20:18,830
was a major solar outburst and it

1704
01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:20,929
actually makes sense in hindsight that

1705
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:22,880
you might recognize this on the moon

1706
01:20:27,130 --> 01:20:25,130
first if it's if you're not looking for

1707
01:20:28,899 --> 01:20:27,140
it because it's much more obvious on the

1708
01:20:31,209 --> 01:20:28,909
moon because the moon doesn't have much

1709
01:20:33,100 --> 01:20:31,219
of an atmosphere at all so things like

1710
01:20:34,689 --> 01:20:33,110
this are preserved one thing you have to

1711
01:20:36,970 --> 01:20:34,699
realize a lot of these features

1712
01:20:38,830 --> 01:20:36,980
especially vitrified Rock they break

1713
01:20:41,740 --> 01:20:38,840
down in the atmosphere very quickly

1714
01:20:45,010 --> 01:20:41,750
they're not um I'm talking geologically

1715
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:45,020
very quickly they degrade that type of

1716
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:48,110
thing so he actually found evidence of

1717
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:50,330
this on the moon initially and anything

1718
01:20:54,340 --> 01:20:52,730
that is going to hit the earth is also

1719
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:54,350
going to hit the moon the moon is that

1720
01:21:00,250 --> 01:20:57,290
close to us from astronomical point of

1721
01:21:02,740 --> 01:21:00,260
view and it may may or may not be the

1722
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:02,750
case but what did the Chinese do just

1723
01:21:08,530 --> 01:21:05,120
now they went to the dark side of the

1724
01:21:10,450 --> 01:21:08,540
Moon the back of the Moon and be

1725
01:21:12,850 --> 01:21:10,460
interested to see what they find there

1726
01:21:15,580 --> 01:21:12,860
because of course as the moon goes

1727
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:15,590
around the earth that also faces the Sun

1728
01:21:18,780 --> 01:21:17,110
you know

1729
01:21:21,890 --> 01:21:18,790
sometimes they're gonna find a McDonalds

1730
01:21:24,930 --> 01:21:21,900
that's what I heard

1731
01:21:27,900 --> 01:21:24,940
let's take my breath okay so there we go

1732
01:21:30,420 --> 01:21:27,910
evidence of this occurs all over the

1733
01:21:34,230 --> 01:21:30,430
earth and also on the moon as does

1734
01:21:36,870 --> 01:21:34,240
McDonald's continue the conversation I'm

1735
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:36,880
trying to keep your tenure we'll do this

1736
01:21:45,570 --> 01:21:40,210
when we come back its fate about the

1737
01:21:52,180 --> 01:21:48,850
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1738
01:21:54,970 --> 01:21:52,190
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1739
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1740
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1741
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1742
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1743
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1744
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1745
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1750
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1757
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1766
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1767
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1768
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1769
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ventilation and that can mean increased

1770
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1771
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1772
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1773
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1774
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1775
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1779
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1781
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1788
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1799
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1801
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1803
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1804
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1805
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1806
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that way sits in our intestine spreading

1807
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1808
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1809
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1810
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1811
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1813
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1815
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if you're tired of being tired

1816
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1817
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1818
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1819
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1820
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1821
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1823
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1828
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to me Jimmy Church on any phone anytime

1829
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:49,500
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1830
01:25:56,590 --> 01:25:51,850
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1831
01:25:59,250 --> 01:25:56,600
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1832
01:26:01,810 --> 01:25:59,260
really love ponies I'm serious I

1833
01:26:04,710 --> 01:26:01,820
couldn't stay sane without poor mr.

1834
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:04,720
Brooks I fade to black

1835
01:26:14,930 --> 01:26:12,800
this is fade to black

1836
01:26:18,620 --> 01:26:14,940
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1837
01:26:21,010 --> 01:26:18,630
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1838
01:26:32,939 --> 01:26:21,020
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1839
01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:32,949
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1840
01:26:37,979 --> 01:26:35,110
welcome back fade to black I am your

1841
01:26:40,169 --> 01:26:37,989
host Jimmy Church what a great

1842
01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:40,179
conversation - that I expected this as

1843
01:26:46,740 --> 01:26:44,560
dr. Schaack but a great conversation and

1844
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:46,750
we are going to continue things right

1845
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:50,050
now we are talking about the possibility

1846
01:26:56,300 --> 01:26:55,090
of the this cataclysmic event 12,000

1847
01:26:59,959 --> 01:26:56,310
years ago

1848
01:27:03,479 --> 01:26:59,969
10,000 BC or thereabouts 10,500 as

1849
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:03,489
possibly being solar and I have to ask

1850
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:06,489
you this Robert let's back up a little

1851
01:27:13,140 --> 01:27:10,170
bit here or a lot B something triggered

1852
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:13,150
this for you there was some kind of

1853
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:14,770
epiphany in your life where you went

1854
01:27:19,410 --> 01:27:17,050
wait a minute there absolutely was

1855
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:19,420
because I was not in this ties in with

1856
01:27:23,970 --> 01:27:21,730
what we were talking about I was not

1857
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:23,980
thinking in terms of the Sun I was not

1858
01:27:30,620 --> 01:27:26,410
thinking in terms of solar events and I

1859
01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:30,630
was perplexed by this and the evidence

1860
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:33,760
for what was some people were

1861
01:27:38,189 --> 01:27:36,370
interpreting as a comet or meteor it

1862
01:27:39,990 --> 01:27:38,199
didn't really make a lot of sense

1863
01:27:42,570 --> 01:27:40,000
because that should cause a cooling

1864
01:27:44,430 --> 01:27:42,580
event not a warming event that didn't

1865
01:27:47,250 --> 01:27:44,440
seem that there was any direct evidence

1866
01:27:51,300 --> 01:27:47,260
it was all circumstantial and what

1867
01:27:54,630 --> 01:27:51,310
really turned things around was a trip

1868
01:27:56,430 --> 01:27:54,640
to Easter Island we went to Easter

1869
01:27:58,439 --> 01:27:56,440
Island Katie and I went to Easter on we

1870
01:28:01,290 --> 01:27:58,449
were married on Easter Island I think

1871
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:01,300
you may know that that's right and that

1872
01:28:05,490 --> 01:28:03,130
was just an incredible trip it was so

1873
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:05,500
much fun and of course it's one of these

1874
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:07,449
places that has all kinds of ancient

1875
01:28:12,750 --> 01:28:10,090
mysteries the moai the big heads and

1876
01:28:16,169 --> 01:28:12,760
torsos that type of thing but something

1877
01:28:18,150 --> 01:28:16,179
that Easter Island has is the wrong go

1878
01:28:20,970 --> 01:28:18,160
wrong go script that it's sort of a

1879
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:20,980
hieroglyphic type script it's really

1880
01:28:26,220 --> 01:28:24,250
interesting because you know linguists

1881
01:28:31,770 --> 01:28:26,230
and whatnot have been trying to decipher

1882
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:31,780
it for 150 years of are there bouts ever

1883
01:28:40,229 --> 01:28:35,290
since it was discovered in the 1860s

1884
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:40,239
1870s with no success they can't even

1885
01:28:45,870 --> 01:28:43,330
agree if it's really you know what kind

1886
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:45,880
of script it might be if it is

1887
01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:50,650
Cedric cetera so to make a long story

1888
01:28:56,870 --> 01:28:53,710
short we were we Katie and I were

1889
01:28:59,879 --> 01:28:56,880
watching electric universe some

1890
01:29:03,360 --> 01:28:59,889
documentary actually and in that

1891
01:29:07,169 --> 01:29:03,370
documentary they mentioned someone who I

1892
01:29:10,129 --> 01:29:07,179
had met before at conferences and spoken

1893
01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:10,139
with and that was dr. anthony peratt at

1894
01:29:15,899 --> 01:29:13,600
los alamos who is this plasma physicist

1895
01:29:17,970 --> 01:29:15,909
I mentioned him briefly at the beginning

1896
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:17,980
of this show when they we start our

1897
01:29:24,780 --> 01:29:20,770
conversation and something he had been

1898
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:24,790
studying was petroglyphs ancient

1899
01:29:30,090 --> 01:29:27,489
engravings on rocks and what he found is

1900
01:29:32,669 --> 01:29:30,100
that a certain class of petroglyphs that

1901
01:29:34,860 --> 01:29:32,679
go back to the end of the last ice age

1902
01:29:36,330 --> 01:29:34,870
and that's my dating now the end of the

1903
01:29:41,550 --> 01:29:36,340
last ice age he's very ancient

1904
01:29:44,610 --> 01:29:41,560
petroglyphs mimic or seemed to be of the

1905
01:29:47,430 --> 01:29:44,620
same diagnostic features and shapes as

1906
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:47,440
plasma configurations that he had been

1907
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:50,080
modeling in the laboratory that you

1908
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:52,330
would get when you had a major solar

1909
01:29:58,560 --> 01:29:55,290
outburst and how could this be

1910
01:30:02,370 --> 01:29:58,570
coincidental and what he determined and

1911
01:30:06,450 --> 01:30:02,380
I absolutely agree with is that in

1912
01:30:07,500 --> 01:30:06,460
ancient times when you had a major solar

1913
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:07,510
outburst

1914
01:30:13,740 --> 01:30:10,690
you would see things in the sky right

1915
01:30:16,620 --> 01:30:13,750
now people know about the rora borealis

1916
01:30:19,020 --> 01:30:16,630
the Northern Lights you have the same

1917
01:30:21,390 --> 01:30:19,030
thing in the South what this is as solar

1918
01:30:23,820 --> 01:30:21,400
winds essentially plasma and a very

1919
01:30:26,070 --> 01:30:23,830
small scale compared to what we had the

1920
01:30:28,910 --> 01:30:26,080
end of the last ice age hitting the

1921
01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:28,920
magnetosphere hitting the atmosphere

1922
01:30:33,450 --> 01:30:32,080
interacting with the nitrogen oxygen the

1923
01:30:36,649 --> 01:30:33,460
atmosphere and you get these pretty

1924
01:30:40,470 --> 01:30:36,659
lights and well aren't they pretty and

1925
01:30:44,250 --> 01:30:40,480
you see them at high latitudes but

1926
01:30:46,770 --> 01:30:44,260
during a major outburst as we had at the

1927
01:30:49,500 --> 01:30:46,780
end of the last ice age you would get

1928
01:30:53,209 --> 01:30:49,510
things like the Northern Lights around

1929
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:53,219
the world because of the incoming

1930
01:30:58,960 --> 01:30:57,250
coronal mass ejections etc and not only

1931
01:31:01,420 --> 01:30:58,970
that but with the

1932
01:31:03,970 --> 01:31:01,430
incredible intensities of the outburst

1933
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:03,980
they would take on very diagnostic

1934
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:06,290
shapes that look like what some people

1935
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:09,890
call stick figures stick figure humans

1936
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:12,770
with little shapes are little Donuts it

1937
01:31:17,250 --> 01:31:14,330
looks like it's known as synchrotron

1938
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:17,260
radiation on the sides you would get

1939
01:31:23,770 --> 01:31:20,890
what would look like donuts or cascading

1940
01:31:27,010 --> 01:31:23,780
cylindrical shapes you would get very

1941
01:31:30,820 --> 01:31:27,020
importantly what appears in the sky to

1942
01:31:33,790 --> 01:31:30,830
be stick figure humans with the heads of

1943
01:31:37,650 --> 01:31:33,800
birds again we tend to anthropomorphize

1944
01:31:41,290 --> 01:31:37,660
things but you get these very specific

1945
01:31:44,260 --> 01:31:41,300
images in the sky these configurations

1946
01:31:47,470 --> 01:31:44,270
plasma configurations he identified

1947
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:47,480
these on petroglyphs around the world in

1948
01:31:52,390 --> 01:31:49,250
over a hundred and thirty countries he

1949
01:31:54,190 --> 01:31:52,400
and his team Haiti was watching this

1950
01:31:56,470 --> 01:31:54,200
while I was sort of distracted and she

1951
01:32:00,700 --> 01:31:56,480
said this looks like the wrong go wrong

1952
01:32:02,710 --> 01:32:00,710
go script and put it all together that

1953
01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:02,720
we need to start looking at the Sun and

1954
01:32:07,270 --> 01:32:05,230
the Easter Islanders it wasn't a

1955
01:32:09,310 --> 01:32:07,280
undeciphered script in the sense that

1956
01:32:10,990 --> 01:32:09,320
they were writing stories and fairy

1957
01:32:14,490 --> 01:32:11,000
tales or something like that but they

1958
01:32:17,620 --> 01:32:14,500
were recording what they saw in the sky

1959
01:32:20,190 --> 01:32:17,630
during a major solar outburst at the end

1960
01:32:24,450 --> 01:32:20,200
of the last ice age what we have

1961
01:32:28,150 --> 01:32:24,460
surviving are the Rango Rango these

1962
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:28,160
inscriptions these depictions I believe

1963
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:31,970
we believe of plasma configurations that

1964
01:32:37,480 --> 01:32:34,010
were seen in the sky and how they would

1965
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:37,490
change over time as the solar outbursts

1966
01:32:44,110 --> 01:32:40,250
progressed as coronal mass ejections

1967
01:32:46,450 --> 01:32:44,120
came in there the physical rongorongo is

1968
01:32:48,790 --> 01:32:46,460
carved on wooden tablets which were very

1969
01:32:52,750 --> 01:32:48,800
valuable on Easter Island they are

1970
01:32:55,510 --> 01:32:52,760
copies of copies of copies even in the

1971
01:32:59,530 --> 01:32:55,520
19th century when the Easter Islanders

1972
01:33:01,330 --> 01:32:59,540
were questioned as to what these meant

1973
01:33:04,390 --> 01:33:01,340
they pointed to this guy had something

1974
01:33:06,310 --> 01:33:04,400
to do with the sky so the actual tablets

1975
01:33:10,230 --> 01:33:06,320
don't go back to the end of the last ice

1976
01:33:12,410 --> 01:33:10,240
age but just as we don't have a Plato's

1977
01:33:15,290 --> 01:33:12,420
manuscripts going back

1978
01:33:20,209 --> 01:33:15,300
two thousand three hundred four hundred

1979
01:33:23,330 --> 01:33:20,219
years etc we believe these are copies of

1980
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:23,340
what was going on so it was really Katie

1981
01:33:29,410 --> 01:33:27,090
putting this together with the work

1982
01:33:31,879 --> 01:33:29,420
coming out of Los Alamos with the

1983
01:33:34,310 --> 01:33:31,889
petroglyphs and we had just gone to

1984
01:33:40,149 --> 01:33:34,320
Easter Island that this time this was

1985
01:33:42,770 --> 01:33:40,159
back nine ten years ago that she got me

1986
01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:42,780
considering the Sun and that the Sun is

1987
01:33:48,830 --> 01:33:45,600
not as stable as everyone tends to

1988
01:33:53,359 --> 01:33:48,840
believe it's undergone these major solar

1989
01:33:55,550 --> 01:33:53,369
outbursts micro nove or many Nova's some

1990
01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:55,560
people are referring to and that we

1991
01:34:01,189 --> 01:33:57,360
really had to look at this seriously so

1992
01:34:03,609 --> 01:34:01,199
the rongorongo was actually pivotal and

1993
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:03,619
interestingly I will say this publicly

1994
01:34:11,750 --> 01:34:07,770
interestingly the Los Alamos team

1995
01:34:14,930 --> 01:34:11,760
members of dr. peratt's

1996
01:34:17,359 --> 01:34:14,940
team have since confirmed to us that

1997
01:34:21,229 --> 01:34:17,369
they discovered the same thing they

1998
01:34:23,780 --> 01:34:21,239
agreed with us with Katie's insight but

1999
01:34:26,390 --> 01:34:23,790
they had not published this in fact this

2000
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:26,400
is part of the issue because certain

2001
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:28,050
groups of people not to get into

2002
01:34:33,229 --> 01:34:30,810
conspiracy theories but you know this

2003
01:34:36,890 --> 01:34:33,239
happened in the past this could happen

2004
01:34:38,540 --> 01:34:36,900
again it will happen again so you know

2005
01:34:40,729 --> 01:34:38,550
it's a little scary to some people and I

2006
01:34:45,530 --> 01:34:40,739
don't want to be a scare monger but I'm

2007
01:34:49,129 --> 01:34:45,540
just looking at evidence now is the okay

2008
01:34:51,260 --> 01:34:49,139
all right I want to almost a it well it

2009
01:34:53,450 --> 01:34:51,270
does it doesn't I want to stay on plot

2010
01:34:54,890 --> 01:34:53,460
but there's other stuff too as well I'm

2011
01:35:02,149 --> 01:34:54,900
looking at the clock and you and I do

2012
01:35:04,790 --> 01:35:02,159
this every single time well because the

2013
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:04,800
peratt confirmation for all of this is

2014
01:35:10,250 --> 01:35:08,010
very very important any need you need

2015
01:35:12,109 --> 01:35:10,260
somebody right a physicist write a

2016
01:35:14,359 --> 01:35:12,119
plasma physicist to come in who's

2017
01:35:17,149 --> 01:35:14,369
already been doing the research to to

2018
01:35:19,310 --> 01:35:17,159
confirm this and and him taking a look

2019
01:35:21,169 --> 01:35:19,320
at the Ron go Ron go and saying hey this

2020
01:35:23,450 --> 01:35:21,179
is exactly what I've been seeing around

2021
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:23,460
the world too it's nothing but more

2022
01:35:28,220 --> 01:35:26,250
confirmation but that's right

2023
01:35:30,170 --> 01:35:28,230
I want to make a quick point if it's not

2024
01:35:31,610 --> 01:35:30,180
obvious to all the listeners because

2025
01:35:35,540 --> 01:35:31,620
things aren't always obvious until

2026
01:35:38,390 --> 01:35:35,550
hindsight this is definitive of a solar

2027
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:38,400
outbursts solar activity unusual solar

2028
01:35:43,900 --> 01:35:40,890
activity you don't get things like this

2029
01:35:46,490 --> 01:35:43,910
from a comet or a meteor or asteroid

2030
01:35:48,970 --> 01:35:46,500
hitting us but you do get this from

2031
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:48,980
solar activity so this is actually quite

2032
01:35:56,630 --> 01:35:52,650
diagnostic of unusual solar activity now

2033
01:35:58,280 --> 01:35:56,640
today the the reporting on this has been

2034
01:36:01,040 --> 01:35:58,290
coming in pretty consistently over the

2035
01:36:03,500 --> 01:36:01,050
last three years and it's starting to

2036
01:36:05,690 --> 01:36:03,510
get for me a little bit alarming and I'm

2037
01:36:08,030 --> 01:36:05,700
talking about the pole shifts and oh

2038
01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:08,040
yeah agentic action that is going on

2039
01:36:14,270 --> 01:36:10,800
right now can you help me understand yes

2040
01:36:16,310 --> 01:36:14,280
well I mean we no one really understands

2041
01:36:19,070 --> 01:36:16,320
what's going on in the terms of the

2042
01:36:23,020 --> 01:36:19,080
geophysics or in astrophysics but what

2043
01:36:26,570 --> 01:36:23,030
we know is that solar activity

2044
01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:26,580
influences geophysical activity so the

2045
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:30,000
Sun has and the Sun and the dynamics of

2046
01:36:38,270 --> 01:36:33,210
the Sun have incredible effect on our

2047
01:36:41,630 --> 01:36:38,280
magnetosphere and on our magnetic pole

2048
01:36:44,060 --> 01:36:41,640
and also earthquake activity and

2049
01:36:46,730 --> 01:36:44,070
volcanic activity all of this has

2050
01:36:49,250 --> 01:36:46,740
electrical component to it to put it

2051
01:36:49,550 --> 01:36:49,260
very simply in a magnetic component to

2052
01:36:57,110 --> 01:36:49,560
it

2053
01:37:00,290 --> 01:36:57,120
been very dramatically weakening over

2054
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:00,300
time it's become unstable it's moving a

2055
01:37:07,310 --> 01:37:02,970
lot of people suggest that we may go

2056
01:37:10,010 --> 01:37:07,320
into a magnetic pole reversal in which

2057
01:37:13,610 --> 01:37:10,020
case you know we may lose our magnetic

2058
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:13,620
field for a short period of time when I

2059
01:37:18,350 --> 01:37:15,570
say short I don't know how long but I'm

2060
01:37:21,230 --> 01:37:18,360
talking geologically short we know from

2061
01:37:24,890 --> 01:37:21,240
the geologic record that the magnetic

2062
01:37:27,260 --> 01:37:24,900
pull of the earth has flipped a number

2063
01:37:30,590 --> 01:37:27,270
of times reversed a number of times gone

2064
01:37:34,580 --> 01:37:30,600
down to zero if we have a weakening

2065
01:37:37,610 --> 01:37:34,590
shield magnetic shield if the pole flips

2066
01:37:39,410 --> 01:37:37,620
if it goes weakens is if it continues to

2067
01:37:41,650 --> 01:37:39,420
weaken as it is now that

2068
01:37:44,450 --> 01:37:41,660
makes us more vulnerable to outside

2069
01:37:47,300 --> 01:37:44,460
radiation well as from outside of the

2070
01:37:49,130 --> 01:37:47,310
earth system more vulnerable to attacks

2071
01:37:50,930 --> 01:37:49,140
by the Sun I don't let's say the Sun

2072
01:37:53,390 --> 01:37:50,940
being bad here but you know if it

2073
01:37:56,660 --> 01:37:53,400
undergoes a solar outburst or when it

2074
01:37:59,900 --> 01:37:56,670
does so this is all becoming quite

2075
01:38:02,709 --> 01:37:59,910
critical and we you and I think I've

2076
01:38:06,979 --> 01:38:02,719
spoken about this before but our

2077
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:06,989
civilization is so vulnerable to these

2078
01:38:14,270 --> 01:38:09,210
types of events and we're so dependent

2079
01:38:17,900 --> 01:38:14,280
on electronics and GPS systems and all

2080
01:38:22,580 --> 01:38:17,910
this type of thing a communication

2081
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:22,590
system set even now we are feeling the

2082
01:38:30,470 --> 01:38:26,250
effects of that even minor solar flares

2083
01:38:33,110 --> 01:38:30,480
cause transformers to blow and parts of

2084
01:38:35,990 --> 01:38:33,120
grid systems to go down temporarily or

2085
01:38:39,530 --> 01:38:36,000
for computers to crash and you know some

2086
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:39,540
Airport no flights can go out you know

2087
01:38:44,689 --> 01:38:42,210
we're just starting to get a sense of

2088
01:38:48,580 --> 01:38:44,699
how how devastating this could be or

2089
01:38:52,580 --> 01:38:48,590
will be to our civilization is it is it

2090
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:52,590
I was might sound like a fear monger and

2091
01:38:57,530 --> 01:38:55,410
I don't mean to be but we get control be

2092
01:39:00,169 --> 01:38:57,540
realistic we should just close our eyes

2093
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:00,179
to this no no we can't we can't control

2094
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:01,890
Gaia we can't control mother nature

2095
01:39:10,610 --> 01:39:06,690
whether it's and soleus the Sun and we

2096
01:39:15,229 --> 01:39:10,620
can't control or our Sun now I was

2097
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:15,239
reading last week that it has it

2098
01:39:23,570 --> 01:39:18,449
possibly has something to do with the

2099
01:39:26,419 --> 01:39:23,580
flow of molten iron yes and and that

2100
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:26,429
that flow I'm almost picturing a river

2101
01:39:33,979 --> 01:39:30,690
right as as change directions and right

2102
01:39:37,189 --> 01:39:33,989
now our magnetic pole is like it's

2103
01:39:39,830 --> 01:39:37,199
almost in Siberia now yeah yeah yeah

2104
01:39:42,650 --> 01:39:39,840
it's really changing we may be changing

2105
01:39:44,510 --> 01:39:42,660
directions but that flow that because

2106
01:39:46,700 --> 01:39:44,520
it's flowing it's moving so it's got

2107
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:46,710
electric and magnetic currents in it

2108
01:39:51,650 --> 01:39:49,170
that is interacting with the rest of the

2109
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:51,660
solar system the main influencer being

2110
01:39:59,980 --> 01:39:53,330
the

2111
01:40:01,330 --> 01:39:59,990
our solar system is a little I mean you

2112
01:40:04,030 --> 01:40:01,340
and I have talked about things like this

2113
01:40:06,430 --> 01:40:04,040
before a little teeny like a little you

2114
01:40:08,590 --> 01:40:06,440
know just compared to the rest of the

2115
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:08,600
galaxy much less the universe so you

2116
01:40:13,900 --> 01:40:11,650
there's all these various factors that

2117
01:40:15,370 --> 01:40:13,910
some of which we probably can't even

2118
01:40:20,140 --> 01:40:15,380
imagine at the moment that can be

2119
01:40:23,610 --> 01:40:20,150
influencing us but the Sun is definitely

2120
01:40:28,510 --> 01:40:23,620
a big one and we really don't understand

2121
01:40:31,270 --> 01:40:28,520
we the internal dynamics of the Earth or

2122
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:31,280
the Sun and you know I'm I don't want to

2123
01:40:37,660 --> 01:40:33,530
sound the wrong way by a PhD in geology

2124
01:40:41,380 --> 01:40:37,670
and geophysics is I'm not agree things

2125
01:40:45,540 --> 01:40:41,390
but I am aware of what we are ignorant

2126
01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:45,550
of is the timing of these events

2127
01:40:52,300 --> 01:40:50,000
consistent there have been people that

2128
01:40:54,570 --> 01:40:52,310
have been looking for cycles in this

2129
01:41:00,130 --> 01:40:54,580
this has actually become very popular in

2130
01:41:02,140 --> 01:41:00,140
recent years and decades and I don't

2131
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:02,150
want to be too definitive about this

2132
01:41:06,490 --> 01:41:02,930
right now

2133
01:41:10,810 --> 01:41:06,500
but I suspect that there is a cycle of

2134
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:10,820
about I hate to take the put this way

2135
01:41:16,810 --> 01:41:13,610
but about probably twelve thousand or so

2136
01:41:19,270 --> 01:41:16,820
year if you know what precession is we

2137
01:41:22,180 --> 01:41:19,280
do a processional cycle it's probably on

2138
01:41:24,730 --> 01:41:22,190
a half half processional cycle this

2139
01:41:26,970 --> 01:41:24,740
processional cycle is about 24 to 26

2140
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:26,980
thousand years we're probably talking

2141
01:41:33,730 --> 01:41:30,650
major incidents like this every half

2142
01:41:36,660 --> 01:41:33,740
processional cycle and there are various

2143
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:36,670
potential reasons for that with the Sun

2144
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:41,210
destabilizing re-calibrate equal debris

2145
01:41:47,500 --> 01:41:43,760
aiding again I don't want to be too

2146
01:41:51,450 --> 01:41:47,510
definitive but I know such things but

2147
01:41:55,420 --> 01:41:51,460
we'll probably do right now for another

2148
01:41:57,250 --> 01:41:55,430
we call it solar correction to sort of

2149
01:42:01,090 --> 01:41:57,260
play off the stock market when it

2150
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:01,100
corrects itself and we have evidence

2151
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:04,730
very direct evidence from of solar

2152
01:42:08,810 --> 01:42:06,449
activities

2153
01:42:12,279 --> 01:42:08,820
the end of the last ice age up to the

2154
01:42:16,009 --> 01:42:12,289
present the Sun was very unstable

2155
01:42:18,379 --> 01:42:16,019
agitated a lot of solar events major

2156
01:42:20,029 --> 01:42:18,389
flaring that type of thing at the end of

2157
01:42:21,799 --> 01:42:20,039
the last ice age just what we've been

2158
01:42:23,629 --> 01:42:21,809
talking about in major solar outbursts

2159
01:42:27,319 --> 01:42:23,639
of course that end of the last ice age

2160
01:42:31,449 --> 01:42:27,329
it was still fairly unstable although

2161
01:42:34,909 --> 01:42:31,459
calming down for the couple of millennia

2162
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:34,919
host end of the last ice age then it

2163
01:42:39,709 --> 01:42:37,530
went into a quite stable period for

2164
01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:39,719
thousands of years and that's when

2165
01:42:45,020 --> 01:42:42,719
civilization re-emerged from what Katie

2166
01:42:50,149 --> 01:42:45,030
and I call Siddha are the solar induced

2167
01:42:52,909 --> 01:42:50,159
Dark Age so from 9700 BC to about 3700

2168
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:52,919
BC I'm using those numbers specifically

2169
01:42:56,299 --> 01:42:54,449
so we have about six thousand year

2170
01:43:00,199 --> 01:42:56,309
period just so people can grasp onto

2171
01:43:02,449 --> 01:43:00,209
that so far about six thousand years we

2172
01:43:04,279 --> 01:43:02,459
had what we call Dark Age or solar

2173
01:43:07,189 --> 01:43:04,289
induced Dark Age because it was brought

2174
01:43:09,859 --> 01:43:07,199
by the Sun bringing down that early

2175
01:43:14,029 --> 01:43:09,869
cycle of civilization then by the fourth

2176
01:43:16,459 --> 01:43:14,039
millennium BC 3700 BC just to use round

2177
01:43:21,620 --> 01:43:16,469
numbers we have a reimburse of

2178
01:43:23,739 --> 01:43:21,630
civilization and Sumer in Egypt in the

2179
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:23,749
Far East that type of thing and

2180
01:43:27,739 --> 01:43:26,489
civilization flourishes and the next

2181
01:43:31,399 --> 01:43:27,749
thing you know you've got cell phones

2182
01:43:36,259 --> 01:43:31,409
and computers and you and I talking on

2183
01:43:38,540 --> 01:43:36,269
the radio etc etc but what has happened

2184
01:43:41,419 --> 01:43:38,550
in the last hundred years and especially

2185
01:43:44,689 --> 01:43:41,429
the last few decades is the Sun has

2186
01:43:48,889 --> 01:43:44,699
started to destabilize again and we're

2187
01:43:50,989 --> 01:43:48,899
seeing solar activity and inactivity it

2188
01:43:53,149 --> 01:43:50,999
goes both ways it gets very active this

2189
01:43:55,909 --> 01:43:53,159
or goes dormant think it's very active

2190
01:43:58,489 --> 01:43:55,919
again and we're seeing this anomalous

2191
01:44:03,259 --> 01:43:58,499
behavior and the Sun which we haven't

2192
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:03,269
seen for ever eight ten thousand twelve

2193
01:44:08,959 --> 01:44:06,090
thousand years right yeah no we've never

2194
01:44:12,259 --> 01:44:08,969
seen it in historical times you know the

2195
01:44:14,239 --> 01:44:12,269
Sun had been acting like this for the

2196
01:44:16,779 --> 01:44:14,249
last two hundred years we wouldn't have

2197
01:44:18,649 --> 01:44:16,789
gotten to the point where you've gotten

2198
01:44:20,740 --> 01:44:18,659
technologically because it would have

2199
01:44:25,130 --> 01:44:20,750
knocked us out

2200
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:25,140
periodically are you suggesting that dr.

2201
01:44:30,890 --> 01:44:26,970
Schaack are you suggesting that through

2202
01:44:34,550 --> 01:44:30,900
ice core samples and sedimented sediment

2203
01:44:38,330 --> 01:44:34,560
layers around the world that every 12

2204
01:44:41,510 --> 01:44:38,340
thousand years that this this evidence

2205
01:44:43,550 --> 01:44:41,520
is there yes yes yes I mean we this

2206
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:43,560
needs more analysis I always couched

2207
01:44:47,450 --> 01:44:45,210
myself just like we were talking about

2208
01:44:49,190 --> 01:44:47,460
what did you say you were making fun not

2209
01:44:51,830 --> 01:44:49,200
making finally you were you didn't like

2210
01:44:55,580 --> 01:44:51,840
you were becoming my language may sort

2211
01:44:57,860 --> 01:44:55,590
of sort of maybe sort of yeah yeah so I

2212
01:44:59,540 --> 01:44:57,870
mean I don't want to be too definitive

2213
01:45:01,660 --> 01:44:59,550
on this because I still want to look at

2214
01:45:04,100 --> 01:45:01,670
more evidence but it's certainly

2215
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:04,110
suggestive this way the evidence I'm

2216
01:45:11,090 --> 01:45:08,010
seeing that we have a star which like

2217
01:45:13,550 --> 01:45:11,100
any other star this is our Sun our Sun

2218
01:45:16,340 --> 01:45:13,560
and the Sun can be defined as a star

2219
01:45:19,430 --> 01:45:16,350
with plants around it so we've got a Sun

2220
01:45:22,430 --> 01:45:19,440
that behaves like most other stars

2221
01:45:24,979 --> 01:45:22,440
behave and they're not always perfectly

2222
01:45:28,130 --> 01:45:24,989
stable beautiful and they're this hair

2223
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:28,140
still Ian ball of fire that's unchanging

2224
01:45:32,060 --> 01:45:30,210
and perfect I mean that's what people

2225
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:32,070
have thought for thousands of years well

2226
01:45:38,570 --> 01:45:35,730
no it's not the case the Sun goes

2227
01:45:41,060 --> 01:45:38,580
through these cycles and I think we may

2228
01:45:42,710 --> 01:45:41,070
be I believe personally based on the

2229
01:45:46,729 --> 01:45:42,720
evidence that we're at the verge of a

2230
01:45:50,590 --> 01:45:46,739
new cycle and it's an it could be cast

2231
01:45:53,210 --> 01:45:50,600
dropping for us on planet Earth today

2232
01:45:54,740 --> 01:45:53,220
something that Katie and I always think

2233
01:45:56,900 --> 01:45:54,750
of when we think about these things I'll

2234
01:45:58,910 --> 01:45:56,910
just throw it out now not only do we

2235
01:46:00,890 --> 01:45:58,920
have all this sophisticated technology

2236
01:46:03,530 --> 01:46:00,900
with GPS and satellites and

2237
01:46:04,310 --> 01:46:03,540
communications we and I think it was a

2238
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:04,320
big mistake

2239
01:46:11,420 --> 01:46:07,650
personally we have around the world

2240
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:11,430
nuclear power plants and those will be

2241
01:46:16,970 --> 01:46:15,090
devastated by a solar outburst we saw

2242
01:46:19,910 --> 01:46:16,980
what happens with just a little

2243
01:46:24,700 --> 01:46:19,920
earthquake and whatnot tsunami with

2244
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:24,710
Fukushima there are there are other

2245
01:46:32,570 --> 01:46:29,130
geologists around the world that are

2246
01:46:33,620 --> 01:46:32,580
coming up with these same ideas and

2247
01:46:35,540 --> 01:46:33,630
research as you

2248
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:35,550
yes yes when you look start looking at

2249
01:46:39,470 --> 01:46:37,170
things like geophysical research letters

2250
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:39,480
and whatnot yes it's starting to come

2251
01:46:45,590 --> 01:46:43,050
together now like anything unfortunate

2252
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:45,600
19 say unfortunately in the sciences a

2253
01:46:55,010 --> 01:46:50,570
lot of people tend to be much more much

2254
01:46:58,100 --> 01:46:55,020
science breeds incredible specialization

2255
01:47:00,280 --> 01:46:58,110
so something that I've always been to a

2256
01:47:02,750 --> 01:47:00,290
certain extent is not only having my own

2257
01:47:04,370 --> 01:47:02,760
specialties but also trying to

2258
01:47:06,650 --> 01:47:04,380
synthesize and look at the bigger

2259
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:06,660
picture as we're talking about now so a

2260
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:09,570
lot of it what happens is that you get

2261
01:47:14,420 --> 01:47:12,050
one paper that's talking about

2262
01:47:16,610 --> 01:47:14,430
earthquake anomalies and how they

2263
01:47:19,780 --> 01:47:16,620
correlate with solar flares or solar

2264
01:47:22,850 --> 01:47:19,790
activity another one looking at

2265
01:47:26,150 --> 01:47:22,860
specifically the changing magnetic pole

2266
01:47:27,860 --> 01:47:26,160
another one you know basically talking

2267
01:47:32,420 --> 01:47:27,870
about all the little details we've been

2268
01:47:35,510 --> 01:47:32,430
talking about and part of what I find

2269
01:47:38,870 --> 01:47:35,520
fascinating is synthesizing this all

2270
01:47:41,210 --> 01:47:38,880
together and also realizing in some

2271
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:41,220
cases it's it's you know you got

2272
01:47:45,230 --> 01:47:43,050
specialists they can look at one little

2273
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:45,240
piece but they don't put it into the

2274
01:47:51,050 --> 01:47:48,210
bigger picture and I sometimes wonder if

2275
01:47:53,390 --> 01:47:51,060
it's almost too scary to do that and

2276
01:47:56,660 --> 01:47:53,400
what about the the the cross

2277
01:47:59,540 --> 01:47:56,670
pollenization of this with other types

2278
01:48:01,310 --> 01:47:59,550
of research like astrophysicists and

2279
01:48:03,500 --> 01:48:01,320
theoretical physicists that are looking

2280
01:48:09,110 --> 01:48:03,510
at our solar system and and the universe

2281
01:48:11,390 --> 01:48:09,120
are they saying the same binding for

2282
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:11,400
instance this is very interesting

2283
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:13,770
we're finding more and more evidence

2284
01:48:19,870 --> 01:48:16,890
that other stars are just like the Sun

2285
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:19,880
that this other stars they undergo these

2286
01:48:23,210 --> 01:48:21,810
outbursts again

2287
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:23,220
to use the term that some people are

2288
01:48:30,350 --> 01:48:26,970
using micro nove or many nove and some

2289
01:48:34,310 --> 01:48:30,360
of them are very regular basis as our

2290
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:34,320
Sun may prove to be so they're not huge

2291
01:48:41,390 --> 01:48:37,010
people used to think in terms of Nova

2292
01:48:43,550 --> 01:48:41,400
Nova star going Nova it destroys all the

2293
01:48:45,890 --> 01:48:43,560
planets in its solar system if there are

2294
01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:45,900
planets going around it just fries them

2295
01:48:49,670 --> 01:48:47,280
completely no we're

2296
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:49,680
[\h__\h] something different where it's

2297
01:48:55,340 --> 01:48:52,530
much more minor from an Astrophysical

2298
01:48:57,470 --> 01:48:55,350
plan view but of course major for

2299
01:49:00,200 --> 01:48:57,480
anything on the planet life on the

2300
01:49:02,870 --> 01:49:00,210
planet so we're finding I think more and

2301
01:49:04,870 --> 01:49:02,880
more evidence astrophysically and if you

2302
01:49:07,490 --> 01:49:04,880
start looking up there's a lot in

2303
01:49:10,270 --> 01:49:07,500
journals about this buried and journals

2304
01:49:13,940 --> 01:49:10,280
about other stars they're doing just

2305
01:49:16,790 --> 01:49:13,950
what I'm talking about for the Sun and

2306
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:16,800
again to me that as a scientist that's

2307
01:49:20,090 --> 01:49:18,330
sort of comforting that we're not

2308
01:49:24,890 --> 01:49:20,100
talking about something weird and

2309
01:49:28,580 --> 01:49:24,900
extraordinary when you look at the big

2310
01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:28,590
picture more less you know other stars

2311
01:49:34,010 --> 01:49:32,400
out there other planetary systems let's

2312
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:34,020
take a break right here and let's get

2313
01:49:39,230 --> 01:49:36,090
into a little bit of overtime dr.

2314
01:49:41,450 --> 01:49:39,240
Schaack and I'm going to when I come

2315
01:49:44,420 --> 01:49:41,460
back after the break I'm going to take

2316
01:49:46,700 --> 01:49:44,430
dr. Schaack out of the box and I do this

2317
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:46,710
every single time he's on the show we'll

2318
01:49:51,140 --> 01:49:48,170
see if I can get him out of the closet

2319
01:49:53,150 --> 01:49:51,150
well this will be number eight Robert if

2320
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:53,160
you think about it we'll be right back

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we'll be right back after this short

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is fade to black I'm yours to be Church

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2410
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:43,170
all right welcome back an amazing

2411
01:54:49,580 --> 01:54:45,370
conversation with dr. Robert M shock

2412
01:54:53,940 --> 01:54:49,590
tonight moving into overtime period and

2413
01:54:58,170 --> 01:54:53,950
this is if you were me if you were I and

2414
01:55:01,590 --> 01:54:58,180
you were sitting with a geologist

2415
01:55:04,740 --> 01:55:01,600
somebody that you know a professor a PhD

2416
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:04,750
in geology right from a Boston

2417
01:55:10,830 --> 01:55:07,210
University you would ask the questions

2418
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:10,840
that I am about to ask so Robert let me

2419
01:55:17,550 --> 01:55:14,050
get the thought out and then I want your

2420
01:55:18,810 --> 01:55:17,560
reaction okay and it's and it's this I'm

2421
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:18,820
gonna get you to come out of the closet

2422
01:55:27,420 --> 01:55:24,730
here we go oh I've been very successful

2423
01:55:32,959 --> 01:55:27,430
with you it's this this is the thought

2424
01:55:35,580 --> 01:55:32,969
if the pyramids were built at 2600 BC

2425
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:35,590
I'm talking about the plateau right

2426
01:55:39,630 --> 01:55:36,130
there

2427
01:55:41,459 --> 01:55:39,640
we got three pyramids let the the first

2428
01:55:43,950 --> 01:55:41,469
two the two Biggie's

2429
01:55:47,190 --> 01:55:43,960
two and a half million blocks each based

2430
01:55:50,190 --> 01:55:47,200
on that in the peer logistics there and

2431
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:50,200
the manpower the amount of stones that

2432
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:53,290
were cut that's one thing but there is

2433
01:56:00,870 --> 01:55:56,170
something missing from the Giza Plateau

2434
01:56:06,300 --> 01:56:00,880
there should be ginormous garbage pits

2435
01:56:10,950 --> 01:56:06,310
full of fish heads full of copper

2436
01:56:14,390 --> 01:56:10,960
chisels full of pigs bones and cow there

2437
01:56:18,209 --> 01:56:14,400
should be garbage there that would be

2438
01:56:21,510 --> 01:56:18,219
astronomical and it's not and the reason

2439
01:56:25,550 --> 01:56:21,520
why I'm concerned about that is that if

2440
01:56:27,930 --> 01:56:25,560
it was at 2600 BC then this debris

2441
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:27,940
everything that would be involved with

2442
01:56:32,910 --> 01:56:30,250
that kind of manpower would be left

2443
01:56:39,380 --> 01:56:32,920
behind and there as evidence and it's

2444
01:56:41,940 --> 01:56:39,390
not why well I mean you're asking me

2445
01:56:44,940 --> 01:56:41,950
because I think a lot of this goes back

2446
01:56:47,010 --> 01:56:44,950
much earlier this actually ties in with

2447
01:56:48,990 --> 01:56:47,020
what we were talking about before when

2448
01:56:50,890 --> 01:56:49,000
remember we were talking about the

2449
01:56:54,399 --> 01:56:50,900
underground cities right I can

2450
01:56:57,850 --> 01:56:54,409
same point that you would pull out so

2451
01:57:00,250 --> 01:56:57,860
much debris and whatnot building these

2452
01:57:01,870 --> 01:57:00,260
huge underground cities you'd have to

2453
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:01,880
bring that to the surface you'd have

2454
01:57:07,090 --> 01:57:04,850
huge piles of it that's all dissipated

2455
01:57:09,100 --> 01:57:07,100
away it's all gone to the wind so speak

2456
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:09,110
it's weathered away what you have at the

2457
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:11,570
Giza Plateau is a little bit different

2458
01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:13,730
situation and I've actually contended

2459
01:57:18,189 --> 01:57:16,250
this for a long time that many of these

2460
01:57:23,709 --> 01:57:18,199
structures at least their origins I

2461
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:23,719
don't deny 2600 BC I don't deny that the

2462
01:57:29,110 --> 01:57:25,850
ancient dynastic Egyptians were using

2463
01:57:31,330 --> 01:57:29,120
the plateau that they were carving some

2464
01:57:33,430 --> 01:57:31,340
tombs there even that they were using

2465
01:57:35,709 --> 01:57:33,440
the structures they were repairing the

2466
01:57:37,780 --> 01:57:35,719
structures there's direct evidence of

2467
01:57:40,930 --> 01:57:37,790
that they were repairing the Sphinx they

2468
01:57:43,450 --> 01:57:40,940
recurved the head I'm convinced they

2469
01:57:46,750 --> 01:57:43,460
we're doing things with a great pyramid

2470
01:57:49,030 --> 01:57:46,760
and second pyramid and third pyramid but

2471
01:57:53,380 --> 01:57:49,040
they weren't the originators of all

2472
01:57:55,630 --> 01:57:53,390
these structures and not only do you

2473
01:57:57,520 --> 01:57:55,640
have a situation where any original

2474
01:58:00,550 --> 01:57:57,530
garbage and debris as you were talking

2475
01:58:06,130 --> 01:58:00,560
about would have long wasted away would

2476
01:58:07,630 --> 01:58:06,140
have weathered away disintegrated that

2477
01:58:10,689 --> 01:58:07,640
type of thing but you had all these

2478
01:58:13,209 --> 01:58:10,699
other guys using the plateau and I'm not

2479
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:13,219
saying they were neat freaks but they

2480
01:58:17,649 --> 01:58:15,170
would have cleaned up some of this they

2481
01:58:20,919 --> 01:58:17,659
probably moved some of it out of the way

2482
01:58:22,899 --> 01:58:20,929
and we actually have a lot of evidence

2483
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:22,909
that that's exactly what happened so

2484
01:58:30,910 --> 01:58:27,010
I'll give you example the Giza Plateau

2485
01:58:34,709 --> 01:58:30,920
2,000 years ago in ancient Roman times

2486
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:34,719
was highly venerated it was used people

2487
01:58:41,110 --> 01:58:37,850
visited we know that there were all

2488
01:58:44,110 --> 01:58:41,120
kinds of Roman structure steps and

2489
01:58:45,939 --> 01:58:44,120
pathways that type of thing where are

2490
01:58:48,930 --> 01:58:45,949
they now they were actually all removed

2491
01:58:52,510 --> 01:58:48,940
in the last 2,000 years so it's

2492
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:52,520
undergone a number of changes and a lot

2493
01:58:57,459 --> 01:58:55,090
of that debris I'm sure was removed

2494
01:59:00,370 --> 01:58:57,469
purposefully when it was being reused

2495
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:00,380
for other purposes etc besides having

2496
01:59:04,740 --> 01:59:03,770
simply decayed away because the reason

2497
01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:04,750
why I think this is

2498
01:59:13,140 --> 01:59:09,250
such an important point is that your

2499
01:59:16,050 --> 01:59:13,150
classic Egyptologist their argument

2500
01:59:19,130 --> 01:59:16,060
doesn't hold water and one of the other

2501
01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:19,140
things that I pull into play here is

2502
01:59:25,770 --> 01:59:23,170
simply population and when you go and

2503
01:59:28,410 --> 01:59:25,780
you look at the population curve and you

2504
01:59:31,620 --> 01:59:28,420
can find these charts all over the

2505
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:31,630
internet about how many people lived in

2506
01:59:38,970 --> 01:59:35,410
ancient Egypt at this time every man

2507
01:59:41,550 --> 01:59:38,980
woman and child from the Mediterranean

2508
01:59:46,260 --> 01:59:41,560
to the origins of the Nile going into

2509
01:59:50,100 --> 01:59:46,270
Ethiopia was put to work oh yeah it was

2510
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:50,110
insane right yeah they were all put to

2511
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:51,850
work they were all doing this I don't

2512
01:59:56,220 --> 01:59:53,530
know how they got anything else done if

2513
01:59:58,680 --> 01:59:56,230
that was the case I mean it's one of the

2514
02:00:01,860 --> 01:59:58,690
things that they avoid in in this

2515
02:00:03,390 --> 02:00:01,870
conversation you know that's it it

2516
02:00:06,330 --> 02:00:03,400
doesn't really make sense I mean it

2517
02:00:09,570 --> 02:00:06,340
makes a lot more sense I think from a

2518
02:00:12,180 --> 02:00:09,580
logistic point of view that these things

2519
02:00:14,820 --> 02:00:12,190
go back much earlier and frankly they

2520
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:14,830
they span a longer period of time as far

2521
02:00:20,850 --> 02:00:17,290
as construction and rebuilding that type

2522
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:20,860
of thing when you go in if you look at

2523
02:00:25,380 --> 02:00:23,050
if this is what I find fascinating right

2524
02:00:27,420 --> 02:00:25,390
you go and you look at a chart of of the

2525
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:27,430
pyramids from Saqqara all the way to

2526
02:00:30,420 --> 02:00:28,930
Gaza and you look at the amount of

2527
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:30,430
pyramids and you look at the size of

2528
02:00:35,610 --> 02:00:33,610
them and they're trying to tell you that

2529
02:00:40,940 --> 02:00:35,620
this went down in a hundred fifty years

2530
02:00:42,180 --> 02:00:40,950
right it's like stop with that it's

2531
02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:42,190
impossible

2532
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:45,730
there wasn't enough people there to do

2533
02:00:50,210 --> 02:00:47,890
this I agree with you

2534
02:00:52,860 --> 02:00:50,220
III don't understand that part that's

2535
02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:52,870
plus it's not just what you see on the

2536
02:00:58,050 --> 02:00:55,090
surface but there's a lot under the

2537
02:01:00,510 --> 02:00:58,060
surface and I mean that in a double way

2538
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:00,520
one there are structures for instance

2539
02:01:03,900 --> 02:01:01,930
I'm convinced that held war in

2540
02:01:08,130 --> 02:01:03,910
particular this is a site that I'd like

2541
02:01:09,630 --> 02:01:08,140
to get into more especially if I could

2542
02:01:11,490 --> 02:01:09,640
do it through or called the organization

2543
02:01:14,220 --> 02:01:11,500
for the research of ancient cultures

2544
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:14,230
it's one of the projects we'd like to do

2545
02:01:18,359 --> 02:01:16,690
there's evidence of essentially what's

2546
02:01:23,250 --> 02:01:18,369
been called a labyrinth

2547
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:23,260
outside in the area outside the pyramid

2548
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:25,810
there but that's that's that's awara

2549
02:01:32,700 --> 02:01:29,770
it's a car for instance there are a huge

2550
02:01:35,939 --> 02:01:32,710
underground not exactly a city but

2551
02:01:40,399 --> 02:01:35,949
underground chambers and whatnot which

2552
02:01:43,620 --> 02:01:40,409
would have been a huge feat to carve out

2553
02:01:46,020 --> 02:01:43,630
independent of the pyramid that you see

2554
02:01:48,780 --> 02:01:46,030
on the surface so there's a lot going on

2555
02:01:50,669 --> 02:01:48,790
and it really boggles the mind and I

2556
02:01:53,129 --> 02:01:50,679
absolutely agree with you it doesn't

2557
02:01:55,470 --> 02:01:53,139
make sense that this all happened within

2558
02:01:57,959 --> 02:01:55,480
a very short period during dynastic

2559
02:02:01,770 --> 02:01:57,969
times it doesn't make any sense and I'm

2560
02:02:04,459 --> 02:02:01,780
just talking about the logistical part

2561
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:04,469
look we can talk about the amount of

2562
02:02:08,490 --> 02:02:06,610
rocks that were carved we can talk about

2563
02:02:11,580 --> 02:02:08,500
the weight of the red granite that you

2564
02:02:13,140 --> 02:02:11,590
know and traveling 500 miles and how did

2565
02:02:16,109 --> 02:02:13,150
they pull that well okay all right that

2566
02:02:18,660 --> 02:02:16,119
Aswan we yes I understand all of that

2567
02:02:19,950 --> 02:02:18,670
but for me I just step back and I go

2568
02:02:24,149 --> 02:02:19,960
wait a minute two and a half million

2569
02:02:27,689 --> 02:02:24,159
stones that means copper chisels which

2570
02:02:30,899 --> 02:02:27,699
wouldn't work while you're talking many

2571
02:02:33,839 --> 02:02:30,909
copper chisels per block not one more

2572
02:02:36,839 --> 02:02:33,849
block right now we're talking about a

2573
02:02:39,540 --> 02:02:36,849
huge amount of copper a huge amount of

2574
02:02:42,060 --> 02:02:39,550
what where is everything

2575
02:02:44,339 --> 02:02:42,070
no it just doesn't it doesn't it doesn't

2576
02:02:46,350 --> 02:02:44,349
it doesn't work the logistics don't work

2577
02:02:49,770 --> 02:02:46,360
see this is I think one of the problems

2578
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:49,780
to the Egyptologists have done a certain

2579
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:51,730
number of I guess experimental

2580
02:02:56,010 --> 02:02:53,650
archaeology is what we can call it

2581
02:02:58,890 --> 02:02:56,020
that's a term they often use okay so you

2582
02:03:02,160 --> 02:02:58,900
take a copper chisel and you chip out

2583
02:03:04,500 --> 02:03:02,170
one little block and you have to keep re

2584
02:03:07,580 --> 02:03:04,510
honing your copper chisel because it's

2585
02:03:10,379 --> 02:03:07,590
bending on you and what not and then you

2586
02:03:12,209 --> 02:03:10,389
off-camera you cheat and use some power

2587
02:03:14,669 --> 02:03:12,219
tools I mean they really do this they do

2588
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:14,679
this yes yes yeah yeah and then you know

2589
02:03:19,550 --> 02:03:16,690
lo and behold for a National Geographic

2590
02:03:22,319 --> 02:03:19,560
or whatever special I don't want the old

2591
02:03:24,810 --> 02:03:22,329
National Geographic so maybe it wasn't

2592
02:03:26,729 --> 02:03:24,820
them but whatever they do is special I

2593
02:03:28,470 --> 02:03:26,739
know they show how they did it with

2594
02:03:30,450 --> 02:03:28,480
ancient tools well why have they really

2595
02:03:31,810 --> 02:03:30,460
done they've cut out couple blocks

2596
02:03:34,030 --> 02:03:31,820
they've cheated a little bit

2597
02:03:37,750 --> 02:03:34,040
on the side it doesn't really

2598
02:03:39,819 --> 02:03:37,760
demonstrate anything and especially not

2599
02:03:43,089 --> 02:03:39,829
when you scaled up to what really

2600
02:03:44,620 --> 02:03:43,099
happened in ancient times and you look

2601
02:03:46,689 --> 02:03:44,630
at the real structures

2602
02:03:49,870 --> 02:03:46,699
yeah billions of blocks as you say to

2603
02:03:52,990 --> 02:03:49,880
the logistics don't work no and and I

2604
02:03:56,069 --> 02:03:53,000
know I'm being a little juvenile here

2605
02:03:59,200 --> 02:03:56,079
and how I'm trying to present this but

2606
02:04:05,430 --> 02:03:59,210
the point it makes the point yes because

2607
02:04:10,540 --> 02:04:08,020
situation where you've got cameras

2608
02:04:13,689 --> 02:04:10,550
rolling and you are demonstrating that

2609
02:04:18,459 --> 02:04:13,699
it takes a day to carve one of these

2610
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:18,469
blocks right that that tips everything

2611
02:04:23,649 --> 02:04:20,570
over it doesn't make any sense because

2612
02:04:26,830 --> 02:04:23,659
this is supposed to be 25 years in a

2613
02:04:30,899 --> 02:04:26,840
period where these blocks were quarried

2614
02:04:35,830 --> 02:04:30,909
and placed every two and a half minutes

2615
02:04:40,080 --> 02:04:35,840
every stonemason and specialist in such

2616
02:04:43,270 --> 02:04:40,090
things that I've ever interacted with

2617
02:04:45,459 --> 02:04:43,280
they some of the cases those they serve

2618
02:04:47,260 --> 02:04:45,469
tried to support the standard standard

2619
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:47,270
story and they say oh yeah I could do

2620
02:04:51,609 --> 02:04:50,090
that etc etc but then when you talk to

2621
02:04:53,350 --> 02:04:51,619
them further about how long it would

2622
02:04:56,379 --> 02:04:53,360
take them to do it how much it would

2623
02:04:58,930 --> 02:04:56,389
cost in modern money and also what tools

2624
02:05:00,819 --> 02:04:58,940
they're using etc and you put it

2625
02:05:03,970 --> 02:05:00,829
together I come to the same conclusion

2626
02:05:06,310 --> 02:05:03,980
that you're driving at it doesn't really

2627
02:05:08,770 --> 02:05:06,320
make sense to extrapolate this back into

2628
02:05:11,290 --> 02:05:08,780
dynastic times and say that they did it

2629
02:05:14,109 --> 02:05:11,300
now when are we gonna get so did that

2630
02:05:16,870 --> 02:05:14,119
the way the standard Egyptologists and

2631
02:05:21,910 --> 02:05:16,880
historians claim now when are we going

2632
02:05:24,970 --> 02:05:21,920
to get to the bottom of the the library

2633
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:24,980
the chamber of secrets underneath this

2634
02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:27,770
is very very important that's under this

2635
02:05:31,899 --> 02:05:29,810
you're going back in time for me

2636
02:05:35,109 --> 02:05:31,909
personally but also forward in time

2637
02:05:37,510 --> 02:05:35,119
because there is that chamber under the

2638
02:05:40,359 --> 02:05:37,520
left paw the Sphinx that Thomas de Becky

2639
02:05:44,169 --> 02:05:40,369
and I found with geophysical techniques

2640
02:05:46,060 --> 02:05:44,179
back in the early 1990s

2641
02:05:49,569 --> 02:05:46,070
you know the Egyptian authorities have

2642
02:05:52,029 --> 02:05:49,579
wanted to sort of squelch this and what

2643
02:05:54,100 --> 02:05:52,039
not to my knowledge yes there's lots of

2644
02:05:56,439 --> 02:05:54,110
rumors people argue that well maybe

2645
02:05:58,569 --> 02:05:56,449
they've already gone into it I don't see

2646
02:06:01,119 --> 02:05:58,579
a good evidence of that but it is there

2647
02:06:03,429 --> 02:06:01,129
and as you know we have the textual

2648
02:06:06,250 --> 02:06:03,439
evidence now with metod being The

2649
02:06:09,669 --> 02:06:06,260
Guardian met hit she was a lioness that

2650
02:06:12,129 --> 02:06:09,679
was the original incarnation the

2651
02:06:14,649 --> 02:06:12,139
original version of the Sphinx guarding

2652
02:06:18,029 --> 02:06:14,659
the archive underneath her under the

2653
02:06:21,819 --> 02:06:18,039
left paw so I am doing everything I can

2654
02:06:26,770 --> 02:06:21,829
working a way to raise money and get

2655
02:06:28,419 --> 02:06:26,780
permission to explore that further let

2656
02:06:33,509 --> 02:06:28,429
me put it that way

2657
02:06:37,929 --> 02:06:33,519
and this will be a major I think a major

2658
02:06:39,850 --> 02:06:37,939
discovery potentially when we get

2659
02:06:42,189 --> 02:06:39,860
finally get in and we don't know what's

2660
02:06:46,119 --> 02:06:42,199
going to be in there but I think it

2661
02:06:49,979 --> 02:06:46,129
could be incredibly significant to Jo so

2662
02:06:53,649 --> 02:06:49,989
it's going to take money and cooperation

2663
02:06:56,199 --> 02:06:53,659
does the government does the government

2664
02:06:57,850 --> 02:06:56,209
there know that there was something

2665
02:07:00,639 --> 02:06:57,860
underneath the Sphinx I mean do they

2666
02:07:04,509 --> 02:07:00,649
know absolutely they I had I turned over

2667
02:07:07,419 --> 02:07:04,519
all the raw data etc to the Egyptian

2668
02:07:12,369 --> 02:07:07,429
government they're aware of the raw data

2669
02:07:14,589 --> 02:07:12,379
spoken with authorities there some of

2670
02:07:16,359 --> 02:07:14,599
them have you knows I Hawass we don't

2671
02:07:18,069 --> 02:07:16,369
need to get into him now he's denied

2672
02:07:20,919 --> 02:07:18,079
that there's anything there even though

2673
02:07:23,949 --> 02:07:20,929
he had all the raw data but times

2674
02:07:27,339 --> 02:07:23,959
changed different people are now in the

2675
02:07:30,609 --> 02:07:27,349
top positions and I think there's a new

2676
02:07:33,939 --> 02:07:30,619
openness and willingness potentially to

2677
02:07:35,739 --> 02:07:33,949
explore further and so I'm very I want

2678
02:07:38,199 --> 02:07:35,749
to stay very positive very hopeful that

2679
02:07:43,649 --> 02:07:38,209
we'll have a chance to explore the

2680
02:07:45,939 --> 02:07:43,659
chamber and the the Grand Museum is

2681
02:07:48,310 --> 02:07:45,949
waiting for this and I thought it was

2682
02:07:51,009 --> 02:07:48,320
going to be open last November

2683
02:07:53,830 --> 02:07:51,019
yeah it's supposed I'm told that it may

2684
02:07:55,899 --> 02:07:53,840
be open this summer and part of the

2685
02:07:57,769 --> 02:07:55,909
question is it so for those that don't

2686
02:08:01,639 --> 02:07:57,779
know it's the

2687
02:08:03,799 --> 02:08:01,649
new multi Multi multi I don't know how

2688
02:08:07,449 --> 02:08:03,809
many tens of millions of dollars museum

2689
02:08:10,369 --> 02:08:07,459
that they're building to house all the

2690
02:08:14,149 --> 02:08:10,379
well not all of them but you know the

2691
02:08:18,829 --> 02:08:14,159
major antiquities the beautiful statuary

2692
02:08:21,199 --> 02:08:18,839
etc that is now currently in the Old

2693
02:08:22,849 --> 02:08:21,209
Cairo Museum the Egyptian Museum in

2694
02:08:26,629 --> 02:08:22,859
Cairo which is a beautiful building a

2695
02:08:28,999 --> 02:08:26,639
self that goes back to what late 1800s

2696
02:08:31,879 --> 02:08:29,009
Early 1900s somewhere around there turn

2697
02:08:34,729 --> 02:08:31,889
of that century but it's you know it's

2698
02:08:37,189 --> 02:08:34,739
olds or Victorian style to put it

2699
02:08:41,059 --> 02:08:37,199
crudely and they are building this

2700
02:08:44,269 --> 02:08:41,069
beautiful new modern museum

2701
02:08:46,639 --> 02:08:44,279
state-of-the-art Katie and I had the

2702
02:08:48,439 --> 02:08:46,649
opportunity to speak with the director

2703
02:08:51,289 --> 02:08:48,449
at length when we were there on one of

2704
02:08:54,409 --> 02:08:51,299
our trips to Egypt he showed us parts of

2705
02:08:56,389 --> 02:08:54,419
it that have been completed something

2706
02:08:59,479 --> 02:08:56,399
that they did which makes a lot of sense

2707
02:09:03,979 --> 02:08:59,489
as they completed their conservation

2708
02:09:07,039 --> 02:09:03,989
restoration portions first so that they

2709
02:09:09,769 --> 02:09:07,049
can conserve and protect the antiquities

2710
02:09:13,459 --> 02:09:09,779
before they put them on display it's

2711
02:09:14,929 --> 02:09:13,469
going to look out to the Giza Plateau so

2712
02:09:17,029 --> 02:09:14,939
there'll be essentially like a big

2713
02:09:18,499 --> 02:09:17,039
window on one part of the museum where

2714
02:09:21,769 --> 02:09:18,509
you can actually look out and see the

2715
02:09:24,909 --> 02:09:21,779
pyramids not that's that close to it's

2716
02:09:28,129 --> 02:09:24,919
not going to obscure the plateau and

2717
02:09:33,199 --> 02:09:28,139
it's pretty good it's pretty close I'm

2718
02:09:35,209 --> 02:09:33,209
looking through the windows what I'm

2719
02:09:36,739 --> 02:09:35,219
saying is that I don't think you can see

2720
02:09:38,359 --> 02:09:36,749
when you're on the plateau it's not like

2721
02:09:40,519 --> 02:09:38,369
all of a sudden this big building is

2722
02:09:43,219 --> 02:09:40,529
looming and now making the pyramids look

2723
02:09:44,929 --> 02:09:43,229
bad I thought that was my point right I

2724
02:09:46,879 --> 02:09:44,939
I think they're doing a very good job

2725
02:09:49,669 --> 02:09:46,889
with it it's incredible what they're

2726
02:09:52,189 --> 02:09:49,679
doing and very well designed is it's

2727
02:09:54,949 --> 02:09:52,199
it's going to be gorgeous I believe and

2728
02:09:57,439 --> 02:09:54,959
something that the director said to us

2729
02:10:00,469 --> 02:09:57,449
is this not just for tourists in fact

2730
02:10:02,269 --> 02:10:00,479
it's not even primarily for tourists yes

2731
02:10:04,129 --> 02:10:02,279
of course they like tourists and they're

2732
02:10:06,979 --> 02:10:04,139
very proud of their country and the

2733
02:10:09,379 --> 02:10:06,989
scheme of the world but he also

2734
02:10:11,339 --> 02:10:09,389
impressed to us that he wants it for the

2735
02:10:13,260 --> 02:10:11,349
Egyptian people to understand there

2736
02:10:17,700 --> 02:10:13,270
heritage and to appreciate their own

2737
02:10:20,729 --> 02:10:17,710
heritage which i think is wonderful 750

2738
02:10:23,609 --> 02:10:20,739
million dollars spent so far and they're

2739
02:10:27,089 --> 02:10:23,619
like seven hundred seven hundred and

2740
02:10:29,100 --> 02:10:27,099
fifty million dollars okay that makes

2741
02:10:31,790 --> 02:10:29,110
sense that I believe that yeah I didn't

2742
02:10:34,589 --> 02:10:31,800
realize it was quite that high already

2743
02:10:36,780 --> 02:10:34,599
they're playing logged into this I heard

2744
02:10:38,550 --> 02:10:36,790
some numbers last week I was watching a

2745
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:38,560
documentary and the construction and

2746
02:10:45,750 --> 02:10:43,290
they are actually comfortable in saying

2747
02:10:47,910 --> 02:10:45,760
1.1 billion when it's all said and done

2748
02:10:51,689 --> 02:10:47,920
yeah that makes sense that makes sense

2749
02:10:54,660 --> 02:10:51,699
that makes sense actually and that's a

2750
02:10:55,890 --> 02:10:54,670
lot of money especially in Egypt it's

2751
02:11:02,910 --> 02:10:55,900
it's huge

2752
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:02,920
it's well worth it they're there it's

2753
02:11:08,490 --> 02:11:06,130
you know it's there's what can you say

2754
02:11:11,069 --> 02:11:08,500
it's Egypt and they have some of the

2755
02:11:14,220 --> 02:11:11,079
most incredible antiquities and it makes

2756
02:11:16,830 --> 02:11:14,230
sense in my opinion to conserve them

2757
02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:16,840
properly to preserve them properly and

2758
02:11:24,270 --> 02:11:20,010
to display them in the best way possible

2759
02:11:27,060 --> 02:11:24,280
so what's up next for you not only for

2760
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:27,070
research in your trips but everything

2761
02:11:34,260 --> 02:11:30,570
else what what's what's on the horizon

2762
02:11:36,330 --> 02:11:34,270
well the research continues the trips

2763
02:11:38,580 --> 02:11:36,340
continue but that ties in with the

2764
02:11:40,709 --> 02:11:38,590
research and something we mentioned this

2765
02:11:43,919 --> 02:11:40,719
very briefly that I'm very excited about

2766
02:11:46,530 --> 02:11:43,929
is doing a documentary with Jim fields

2767
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:46,540
and we hope to start shooting part of

2768
02:11:52,229 --> 02:11:49,210
that at least preliminarily in Egypt

2769
02:11:54,780 --> 02:11:52,239
this summer and this is being done with

2770
02:11:58,609 --> 02:11:54,790
the organization for the research of

2771
02:12:02,760 --> 02:11:58,619
ancient cultures which is a non-profit

2772
02:12:07,410 --> 02:12:02,770
you know fully government-approved

2773
02:12:11,250 --> 02:12:07,420
should we say nonprofit organization

2774
02:12:12,689 --> 02:12:11,260
that I am a founding member of but other

2775
02:12:14,339 --> 02:12:12,699
people of course are involved and we

2776
02:12:16,530 --> 02:12:14,349
have a board of directors that type of

2777
02:12:19,649 --> 02:12:16,540
thing but we're going to do this

2778
02:12:22,379 --> 02:12:19,659
documentary we hope and we also want to

2779
02:12:24,120 --> 02:12:22,389
raise money for research including some

2780
02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:24,130
of the projects we've been talking about

2781
02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:27,730
during the conversation today so I hope

2782
02:12:32,130 --> 02:12:29,650
that I know you have always links from

2783
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:32,140
your website but I hope that people will

2784
02:12:39,830 --> 02:12:34,890
go to my website Robert Schoch comm and

2785
02:12:42,720 --> 02:12:39,840
look at the links look at the really

2786
02:12:44,580 --> 02:12:42,730
they can get information there as to

2787
02:12:46,710 --> 02:12:44,590
what's going on and the latest

2788
02:12:49,110 --> 02:12:46,720
developments and there's links to Oracle

2789
02:12:51,030 --> 02:12:49,120
in the projects so I'm excited about all

2790
02:12:53,190 --> 02:12:51,040
this and look I think we have a very

2791
02:12:54,870 --> 02:12:53,200
bright future no you're gonna be we're

2792
02:12:59,790 --> 02:12:54,880
gonna see you next month and I'm very

2793
02:13:01,170 --> 02:12:59,800
excited about this you in conscious life

2794
02:13:05,070 --> 02:13:01,180
Expo what are you going to be speaking

2795
02:13:08,820 --> 02:13:05,080
about this time around well I have to

2796
02:13:11,070 --> 02:13:08,830
think about that don't I think I

2797
02:13:12,060 --> 02:13:11,080
actually I'll probably I think some of

2798
02:13:14,070 --> 02:13:12,070
the things we've been talking about

2799
02:13:17,310 --> 02:13:14,080
during this conversation to elaborate on

2800
02:13:20,670 --> 02:13:17,320
that I'll come back to Egypt and Turkey

2801
02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:20,680
and really I think probably what I'll

2802
02:13:26,520 --> 02:13:22,810
focus on is the end of the last ice age

2803
02:13:30,150 --> 02:13:26,530
and all the new evidence as accumulating

2804
02:13:32,310 --> 02:13:30,160
for incredibly sophisticated cultures

2805
02:13:34,230 --> 02:13:32,320
and civilizations around the world but

2806
02:13:37,140 --> 02:13:34,240
also the warning of you know what

2807
02:13:40,410 --> 02:13:37,150
happened to them and how we need to

2808
02:13:43,140 --> 02:13:40,420
learn from that well safe travels coming

2809
02:13:45,150 --> 02:13:43,150
out here and the links for Roberts

2810
02:13:49,170 --> 02:13:45,160
website are right there at Jimmy Torrio

2811
02:13:52,500 --> 02:13:49,180
comm do go and check out Oracle I dunno

2812
02:13:54,600 --> 02:13:52,510
I believe you're Egypt tours your two

2813
02:13:57,000 --> 02:13:54,610
trips out those are both sold out those

2814
02:13:59,130 --> 02:13:57,010
are both sold out at the moment but what

2815
02:14:01,530 --> 02:13:59,140
I would do is encourage people to get my

2816
02:14:03,180 --> 02:14:01,540
personal mailing list so when you go to

2817
02:14:06,690 --> 02:14:03,190
Robert Schoch and everyone should know

2818
02:14:09,930 --> 02:14:06,700
how spell my name s CH och Robert Schoch

2819
02:14:12,330 --> 02:14:09,940
comm you can sign up for my personal

2820
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:12,340
mailing list go to the contact page and

2821
02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:14,530
they'll give you information but also go

2822
02:14:20,220 --> 02:14:17,530
to Oracle's website and there's a link

2823
02:14:23,550 --> 02:14:20,230
from my website and get put on the

2824
02:14:27,930 --> 02:14:23,560
oracle mailing list because even though

2825
02:14:30,570 --> 02:14:27,940
the current egypt trips are sold out the

2826
02:14:33,870 --> 02:14:30,580
board of directors of oracle has already

2827
02:14:35,970 --> 02:14:33,880
been discussing possibility of future

2828
02:14:38,100 --> 02:14:35,980
trips not this year but in coming years

2829
02:14:40,950 --> 02:14:38,110
and not only to egypt

2830
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:40,960
the other places as well so because

2831
02:14:46,290 --> 02:14:42,610
that's part of the educational mission

2832
02:14:48,750 --> 02:14:46,300
of Oracle to take people to some of

2833
02:14:50,340 --> 02:14:48,760
these sites because there's yeah you can

2834
02:14:54,660 --> 02:14:50,350
read about them all you want you can

2835
02:14:58,440 --> 02:14:54,670
look at YouTube videos and documentary

2836
02:15:01,320 --> 02:14:58,450
specials etc but there is really nothing

2837
02:15:04,170 --> 02:15:01,330
like going to see them for yourself and

2838
02:15:06,330 --> 02:15:04,180
experience in them no I don't for

2839
02:15:08,790 --> 02:15:06,340
yourself so I'm not criticizing you

2840
02:15:10,650 --> 02:15:08,800
Jimmy I know you're with me sometimes

2841
02:15:13,830 --> 02:15:10,660
this is the thing I'm just saying for

2842
02:15:16,830 --> 02:15:13,840
the general person if they can make it

2843
02:15:19,710 --> 02:15:16,840
work for them it's great to visit the

2844
02:15:22,110 --> 02:15:19,720
sites now not everyone can for various

2845
02:15:24,600 --> 02:15:22,120
reasons whether it's personal or

2846
02:15:26,670 --> 02:15:24,610
financial or whatnot I understand that

2847
02:15:29,700 --> 02:15:26,680
so you know I'm not criticizing anyone

2848
02:15:32,790 --> 02:15:29,710
but if people have a chance it's always

2849
02:15:34,500 --> 02:15:32,800
fun to do yeah I don't know of course

2850
02:15:36,330 --> 02:15:34,510
there's the King's Chamber and there's

2851
02:15:39,810 --> 02:15:36,340
Kisa and that and the and the Great

2852
02:15:41,790 --> 02:15:39,820
Sphinx but getting off of the plateau I

2853
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:41,800
don't know

2854
02:15:48,630 --> 02:15:44,770
and Luxor and I get all of that but for

2855
02:15:51,420 --> 02:15:48,640
me at well this era p.m. of course but I

2856
02:15:59,460 --> 02:15:51,430
think I want to go to Ed foo you know

2857
02:16:03,480 --> 02:15:59,470
it's incredible right right there is so

2858
02:16:05,340 --> 02:16:03,490
much in Egypt so much in Egypt so if

2859
02:16:07,430 --> 02:16:05,350
people have a chance but you know the

2860
02:16:10,980 --> 02:16:07,440
second best thing it is really

2861
02:16:13,860 --> 02:16:10,990
incredible what we can do now with

2862
02:16:16,740 --> 02:16:13,870
modern technology of people get a good

2863
02:16:19,140 --> 02:16:16,750
sense of it from videos and that type of

2864
02:16:21,000 --> 02:16:19,150
thing and I've had people that travel

2865
02:16:22,590 --> 02:16:21,010
with me and they've watched a log videos

2866
02:16:25,290 --> 02:16:22,600
and whatnot and actually I encourage

2867
02:16:27,960 --> 02:16:25,300
people to do that whether they can or

2868
02:16:29,870 --> 02:16:27,970
can whether they can travel to Egypt or

2869
02:16:33,120 --> 02:16:29,880
not because those that can't of course

2870
02:16:35,610 --> 02:16:33,130
that is the next best substitute but

2871
02:16:37,500 --> 02:16:35,620
those that do travel for instance with

2872
02:16:40,260 --> 02:16:37,510
me or whatever

2873
02:16:43,410 --> 02:16:40,270
if you familiarized yourself with a site

2874
02:16:46,500 --> 02:16:43,420
well ahead of time and you you get that

2875
02:16:49,650 --> 02:16:46,510
much more out of it so yes both ways

2876
02:16:50,640 --> 02:16:49,660
absolutely well safe travels for you and

2877
02:16:52,680 --> 02:16:50,650
Katie and

2878
02:16:54,840 --> 02:16:52,690
and give her my bathroom and and we'll

2879
02:16:57,240 --> 02:16:54,850
break bread in about a month I can't

2880
02:16:59,490 --> 02:16:57,250
believe it we'll see ya great to see you

2881
02:17:02,880 --> 02:16:59,500
and I hope everyone can make it there

2882
02:17:05,041 --> 02:17:02,890
that you know the conscious life Expo

2883
02:17:09,300 --> 02:17:05,051
we're talking about ten fifteen thousand

2884
02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:09,310
people it's it's just a huge event and

2885
02:17:14,160 --> 02:17:12,010
and what you want to do everybody's go

2886
02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:14,170
up to Robert take a picture of him and

2887
02:17:17,791 --> 02:17:16,810
make him take a picture of you and you

2888
02:17:24,570 --> 02:17:17,801
guys do it together

2889
02:17:26,310 --> 02:17:24,580
that's as safe travels to you and Katie

2890
02:17:28,500 --> 02:17:26,320
and we'll see you guys shortly yeah

2891
02:17:30,090 --> 02:17:28,510
we'll see you soon we're looking forward

2892
02:17:32,880 --> 02:17:30,100
to it thank you so much Robert have a

2893
02:17:36,840 --> 02:17:32,890
great rest of your night okay thank you

2894
02:17:39,720 --> 02:17:36,850
dr. Robert M shock and it's Robert shock

2895
02:17:42,030 --> 02:17:39,730
calm and the links are over at Jimmy

2896
02:17:45,210 --> 02:17:42,040
Church radio calm go and do it checkout

2897
02:17:47,970 --> 02:17:45,220
Oracle his trips right now were sold out

2898
02:17:49,980 --> 02:17:47,980
I you know but it's it's dr. Robert

2899
02:17:51,780 --> 02:17:49,990
Schoch and you would expect that but he

2900
02:17:54,270 --> 02:17:51,790
will be speaking at the conscious life

2901
02:17:56,700 --> 02:17:54,280
Expo next month here in Los Angeles and

2902
02:17:57,871 --> 02:17:56,710
you can go to the conscious life Expo

2903
02:18:01,590 --> 02:17:57,881
banner right there Jimmy Church

2904
02:18:03,270 --> 02:18:01,600
radio.com and go and check all of that

2905
02:18:05,520 --> 02:18:03,280
out right there tickets info full

2906
02:18:08,960 --> 02:18:05,530
comfort schedule is right there nassim

2907
02:18:13,230 --> 02:18:08,970
haramein of course Linda Moulton Howe

2908
02:18:15,210 --> 02:18:13,240
Erich von däniken George Noory it's a

2909
02:18:16,980 --> 02:18:15,220
it's a full weekend of events you're

2910
02:18:19,110 --> 02:18:16,990
gonna want to go and check it out right

2911
02:18:21,570 --> 02:18:19,120
now now I mentioned earlier at the front

2912
02:18:23,730 --> 02:18:21,580
of the show before I get out of here one

2913
02:18:26,280 --> 02:18:23,740
of the things that I am going to present

2914
02:18:28,500 --> 02:18:26,290
tomorrow there are two things I'm gonna

2915
02:18:33,660 --> 02:18:28,510
set up for fate or night one of them is

2916
02:18:36,210 --> 02:18:33,670
CERN and their plans right now for a new

2917
02:18:39,690 --> 02:18:36,220
Collider and the current one which is

2918
02:18:42,750 --> 02:18:39,700
the largest thing that was built on

2919
02:18:45,630 --> 02:18:42,760
planet Earth that it it you think about

2920
02:18:48,060 --> 02:18:45,640
the engineering that goes behind it and

2921
02:18:50,940 --> 02:18:48,070
what they are doing with it it's it's

2922
02:18:54,541 --> 02:18:50,950
the design and the implementation of the

2923
02:18:57,600 --> 02:18:54,551
LHC it is incredibly huge the most

2924
02:19:01,680 --> 02:18:57,610
complex crazy thing that humans have

2925
02:19:06,300 --> 02:19:01,690
ever built they are going to take that

2926
02:19:08,610 --> 02:19:06,310
a hundred now think about that now I'm

2927
02:19:11,160 --> 02:19:08,620
gonna go over all of that tomorrow and

2928
02:19:16,770 --> 02:19:11,170
the other thing that I am going to lay

2929
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out for you tomorrow is how much data do

2930
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you create every single day how much

2931
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data do you create not the data that you

2932
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might be thinking about let you know

2933
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like writing the annual report for your

2934
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brokerage firm right I'm not talking

2935
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about that I'm talking about data that

2936
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is created by you automatically and you

2937
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don't even know about it right that kind

2938
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of data do you have any idea about this

2939
02:19:49,170 --> 02:19:47,230
well you probably don't so tomorrow I'm

2940
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gonna help you understand all of this

2941
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because first there is your cell phone a

2942
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smartphone there's your tablet there's

2943
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your laptop there is your car and and

2944
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Google and with Google that means Chrome

2945
02:20:13,290 --> 02:20:09,160
that means Android and data is you

2946
02:20:16,620 --> 02:20:13,300
create data every second of the day and

2947
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you don't have any idea about how much

2948
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data is actually collected so tomorrow

2949
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I'm gonna give you the full report I'm

2950
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gonna tell you how much data I'm gonna

2951
02:20:28,650 --> 02:20:25,120
tell you where it's going I'm gonna tell

2952
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you what kind of data and how much that

2953
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is collected in a 24-hour period

2954
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it is unbelievable so I'm going to set

2955
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that up for tomorrow night for Fator

2956
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night and we will discuss this it's a

2957
02:20:44,761 --> 02:20:42,250
it's a very important report that

2958
02:20:48,690 --> 02:20:44,771
combined with CERN and throw all of that

2959
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into one big pile and add on your phone

2960
02:20:52,200 --> 02:20:50,320
calls so that's what's going to go down

2961
02:20:54,091 --> 02:20:52,210
tomorrow night fate or night with that I

2962
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want to thank dr. Robert Emms shark for

2963
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another great conversation and of course

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I've got to get out of here because

2965
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there is food at my house right now

2966
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waiting for me and I can't wait to get

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home

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fade to black executive producer is Rita

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02:21:12,210 --> 02:21:09,641
Kumari on shows produced by Hilton Jay

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Paul Renee Dennis and Bob announcers our

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Spock cast own a copyright of 2018 by

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02:21:41,849 --> 02:21:40,090
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Network I'm your host Jimmy Church I'll

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see everybody tomorrow night right here

2986
02:21:54,450 --> 02:21:48,729
for Fey tonight follow me on twitter @

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